#79 - The Path to WWIII and Ovechkin's Final Stretch

March 3, 2025

#79 - The Path to WWIII and Ovechkin's Final Stretch

Unfiltered Union

In this episode of Unfiltered Union, Russ and Linz start with light-hearted banter about personal hygiene, Florida's weather, and local events like the IndyCar race in St. Petersburg. They discuss their daughter's recent school project for Black History Month, where she presented on Bessie Coleman, and explore the concept of whether competitiveness is an innate trait or learned behavior through discussion and personal observations.

The hosts then dive into a detailed and nuanced discussion about the recent high-profile meeting involving Ukrainian President Zelensky, examining the complex geopolitical tensions surrounding the Russia-Ukraine conflict. They discuss the potential paths to peace, the risks of escalation, and the challenges of negotiating with Putin, ultimately expressing concern about the possibility of a wider global conflict and the humanitarian costs of continued warfare.

Towards the end of the episode, they shift to lighter topics, discussing their excitement about hockey player Ovechkin potentially breaking scoring records and speculating about space exploration, specifically comparing the potential for human settlement on Mars versus the moon. Throughout the episode, their conversation is characterized by a mix of personal anecdotes, political commentary, and playful interaction.

Podcast Title

Unfiltered Union

Host

Russ and Lindz

Publish Date

March 3, 2025

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Episode Notes

In this episode, we share personal hygiene confessions and explore the quirky "shower lobby." We discuss Florida's sunny weather, our daughter’s soccer, and our thrilling IndyCar race experience in St. Petersburg.

We tackle parenting costs from school events, celebrate our daughter’s wax museum project on Bessie Coleman, and dive into the nature versus nurture debate on competitiveness. Conversations touch on recent political events and international relations, especially regarding Ukraine, before wrapping up with a fun debate on life beyond Earth. Tune in for a lively mix of humor and heartfelt insights!

  • (00:18) - Unfiltered Beginnings
  • (02:11) - Florida Sunshine and Events
  • (05:15) - School Costs and Fundraising
  • (10:16) - Kids and Competitiveness
  • (15:56) - Political Tensions and Negotiations
  • (24:38) - War and Peace Strategies
  • (32:53) - Future of Space Exploration
  • (39:12) - Hockey Hopes and Dreams
  1. Zelensky's confrontational approach during peace negotiations with Russia may hinder diplomatic efforts, with Russ arguing that insulting Putin publicly undermines potential conflict resolution

  2. The ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict risks escalating into a potential World War III scenario, with both hosts expressing deep concern about the possibility of nuclear conflict

  3. The hosts discuss the complex nature of competitiveness, debating whether it's an innate human trait (Russ's view) or a learned behavior influenced by environment (Linz's perspective)

  4. Russ is excited about Alex Ovechkin potentially breaking Wayne Gretzky's hockey scoring record, noting the increased difficulty of scoring in modern hockey

  5. Florida's outdoor events like Strawberry Fest, IndyCar racing in St. Petersburg, and upcoming Sun and Fun air show highlight the state's active event culture

  6. Their daughter's participation in a Black History Month wax museum project showcased her growing confidence and potential interest in performance-based activities

  7. The hosts critique the increasing costs associated with public school events and fundraising, questioning the financial burden on parents

  8. Space exploration discussions reveal a preference for Mars over the moon due to its more hospitable environment

  1. "You have to bring both parties to the table. And to do that, you don't need to be insulting him in American media. That's not how you do it."  - Russ

    - Provides a nuanced perspective on diplomatic negotiations, suggesting that inflammatory rhetoric undermines potential peace efforts.

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  2. "Survival of the fittest is a competition. And we are part of survival of the fittest."  - Russ

    - Offers an intriguing philosophical argument about competitiveness being an inherent human trait rooted in evolutionary survival instincts.

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  3. "She was dressed as a pilot. It was really cute. And then they had the kids put stickers on their hands. And then you go around, you boop the kid's hand and they do a speech on their person."  - Linz

    - Captures a heartwarming description of an educational event that creatively engages children in learning about historical figures.

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  4. "The world is on the brink of a major war."  - Linz

    - A stark, sobering statement that encapsulates the underlying tension in the ongoing international conflict.

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  5. "I want to eat a lunchable tomorrow."  - Russ

    - A humorous, unexpected interjection that provides comic relief during a serious discussion about potential global conflict, highlighting the podcast's conversational and unfiltered nature.

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Chapter 1: Unfiltered Beginnings: Personal Hygiene and Humor

The episode opens with a playful and candid discussion about personal hygiene, specifically Russ's admission of not having showered that day. The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about shower habits, societal expectations, and what they humorously refer to as the 'shower lobby'.

  • The podcast thrives on candid, unfiltered conversations that don't shy away from personal admissions.
  • Humor and lightheartedness are central to the hosts' communication style.

Key Quotes

  1. "Don't get me started. The idea that I gotta pull out in my notes." by Russ

    - Highlights the podcast's spontaneous and unscripted nature

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  2. "Don't, don't. Don't help smell your screen." by Russ

    - Captures the hosts' quirky sense of humor and willingness to discuss unconventional topics

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Chapter 2: Sunshine State Shenanigans: Florida Events and Family Life

Russ and Linz discuss various Florida events like Gasparilla, Strawberry Fest, and the IndyCar race in St. Petersburg. They share personal experiences, including their daughter's soccer activities and the challenges of outdoor events in Florida's warm climate.

  • Florida offers a variety of year-round events that cater to different interests, from sports to music festivals.
  • Family activities and shared experiences are an important part of the hosts' life.

Key Quotes

  1. "As much as we get sunburn, like, maybe we should learn our lesson and put on sunscreen." by Linz

    - Highlights the recurring theme of sun exposure and skin protection in Florida

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  2. "It's one of the nicest and coolest outdoor events I've ever been to." by Russ

    - Captures the hosts' enthusiasm for local events, specifically the IndyCar race

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Chapter 3: School Days: Parenting, Costs, and Educational Experiences

The hosts discuss the financial burdens of school activities, fundraisers, and special events. They highlight their daughter's participation in a Black History Month wax museum project about Bessie Coleman, reflecting on her performance and personal growth.

  • School activities can be both financially challenging and educationally enriching for parents.
  • Engaging school projects can help children develop confidence and learn about historical figures.

Key Quotes

  1. "I will say I'm sitting here bitching and complaining about the money, but they, the school put on this huge show for us and it was awesome." by Russ

    - Shows the hosts' balanced perspective on school expenses and educational value

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  2. "Our kiddo's in the fourth grade and her presentation was on Betsy Coleman and Bessie Coleman, the first Native American and African American pilot, woman pilot to achieve a pilot's license." by Linz

    - Highlights the educational significance of the school project

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Chapter 4: Nature vs. Nurture: The Roots of Competitiveness

Russ and Linz engage in a thought-provoking discussion about whether competitiveness is an innate trait or learned behavior. They explore this concept through personal observations and hypothetical scenarios, particularly relating to children and sports.

  • Competitiveness likely stems from a combination of genetic predisposition and environmental influences.
  • Individual differences in competitive behavior can be observed from a very young age.

Key Quotes

  1. "I think that is the same when it comes to competition. Like, survival of the fittest is a competition." by Russ

    - Illustrates Russ's perspective that competitiveness is a deeply rooted human instinct

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  2. "I feel like it's both nature and nurture that you can be born with a sense of competitiveness." by Linz

    - Represents a balanced view of the competitiveness debate

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Chapter 5: Global Tensions: Navigating International Diplomacy

The hosts delve into a complex discussion about the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine, exploring the potential geopolitical implications, negotiation strategies, and the risks of escalating tensions that could lead to a broader global conflict.

  • Effective international diplomacy requires careful communication and a focus on mutual understanding.
  • The risk of nuclear conflict makes peaceful negotiation critical in resolving international disputes.

Key Quotes

  1. "How do you negotiate with somebody who doesn't want to be at the table? You don't insult people who are the other party to a negotiation." by Russ

    - Captures the nuanced perspective on diplomatic negotiations

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  2. "Nuclear war is a possibility. If you think Putin's evil, imagine if we had to send boots on the ground." by Russ

    - Highlights the potential catastrophic consequences of escalating international tensions

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Chapter 6: Space Exploration and Hockey Dreams

The conversation transitions to lighter topics, discussing space exploration, potential Mars colonization, and their excitement about hockey player Ovechkin potentially breaking scoring records. They reflect on changes in sports and technology over the years.

  • Technological advancements have significantly transformed sports and space exploration.
  • Athletic achievements become more impressive when viewed in historical context.

Key Quotes

  1. "The fact that he has made it this far is insane." by Russ

    - Expresses admiration for Ovechkin's athletic achievement

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  2. "Gretzky didn't have that back then. So the fact that OVI is about to surpass this dude when the league has changed so much is huge." by Russ

    - Provides context for the significance of Ovechkin's potential record

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Russ

This

is

the

unfiltered

union.

Linz

I'm

Linz.

Russ

And

I'm

Russ.

Linz

Here

is

this

week's

episode.

Russ

I

have

not

taken

a

shower

today.

Linz

Cute.

That's

how

we're

starting

today.

Russ

Yeah.

I

figured

I'd

just

be

honest

with

the

listeners

and

tell

them

that

I

smell

nice.

Linz

Just

get

it

out

of

the

way.

Yeah,

that's

good.

Russ

Yeah.

I

just

want

everybody

to

know.

Linz

Appreciate

it.

Russ

It's

not.

You

don't

have.

Don't,

don't.

Don't

help

smell

your

screen.

Linz

What

are

you

trying

to

say?

Russ

I

don't

know.

Linz

Okay.

Russ

All

right.

Don't.

Don't

feel

like

you're

forced

to

take

a

shower

by

the

shower

lobby.

Linz

The

shower

lobby?

Russ

Yeah,

it's

probably

a

thing.

Linz

I

doubt

it.

Russ

Yeah,

the

shampoo

lobby

and

stuff.

They're

just

trying

to

get

your

money,

bro.

Linz

So

it's

really

warm

in

Florida

now.

Russ

It

is.

Linz

We

have

sunburn.

Russ

We

do.

Linz

First

sunburn

of

the

year.

Russ

Yep.

Yep.

Soccer

means

outside,

means

extra

sunburn.

Linz

I

mean,

we

play.

Our

daughter

plays

in

recreational

league,

and

I

mean,

that's

all

year

round

pretty

much

for

us

here

in

Florida.

But

mind

you,

it

does

get

chilly.

Wear

hoodies

and

stuff.

Russ

Well,

the

interesting

thing

is

they

actually

take

a

break

in

the

summer.

Linz

Yes.

Russ

They

don't

take

a

break

in

the

winter.

They

take

a

break

in

the

summer.

Linz

Because

it

gets

very

hot.

Russ

It's

hot

here.

It's

hot

enough

to

where

they're

like,

I'm

not

going

outside

and

fu.

Linz

But

this

podcast

is

not

brought

to

you

by

Solar

recover,

but

we

highly

recommend

it

for

when

you

do

get

sunburned.

Russ

Yes,

it

isn't,

but

I

do

think

they

should

contact

us

and

probably

throw

us

a

couple

bucks.

Linz

As

much

as

we

talk

about

it.

Russ

And

we

buy

it,

although

religiously,

as.

Linz

Much

as

we

get

sunburn,

like,

maybe

we

should

learn

our

lesson

and

put

on

sunscreen.

Like,

maybe

that

feels

gross,

but

it

protects

your

skin

and

prevents

things

like

melanoma.

Russ

Yeah.

But

I

think

the

problem

with

that

is,

though,

is

all

the

chemicals

that

is.

That.

That

is.

That

are

the

chemicals

that

are.

Is

be

into

the

sunscreen

that.

Linz

Well,

okay.

We're

struggling

today.

Russ

Got

it

already.

We're

starting

off

good.

Linz

That's

okay.

We'll

be

okay.

Russ

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

Linz

But

that

also

means

with

the

weather

turning,

that

there's

all

these

events

in

Florida.

Russ

Yeah.

Did

well.

Yeah.

Gasparilla

already

happened,

didn't

it?

Linz

Yeah,

that

was

back

in

January

and

that

was

cold.

It

was

very

cold.

We

did

not.

That

was

too

cold.

Russ

When's

stone

crab

season?

Linz

I

Think

it's

October

through,

like,

March.

Russ

I'm

way

off.

I'm

over

here

trying

to

act

like

I

know

what

I'm

doing.

Linz

Let

me.

I

got

it.

Russ

So

Indy

car

was

today?

Linz

Yes,

that's

my

favorite.

The

first

Indy

car

race

of

the

season

in

St.

Pete.

Russ

We

just

finished

watching

it.

Linz

It

was

a

good

race.

Russ

Our

guy

didn't

win.

Joseph

New

Garden.

We

want

him

to

win.

I

don't

really

know

why.

Linz

Just

rooting

for

somebody.

Russ

Yeah,

we're

just

rooting

for

somebody.

And,

well,

he's

American

and

his

car

is

a

Chevy,

so.

Rooting

for

American.

Linz

Sure.

Russ

Made

in

America.

Linz

Yeah,

I

guess

somebody.

Russ

He

was

made

in

America.

Car

was

made

in

America.

Linz

But,

I

mean,

it

was

a

really

good

race,

though.

And

we

actually

went

to

one

of

the

races

once

upon

a

time

because

my

work

got

us

passes.

And

it

was

a

cool

event

to

go

to.

Russ

It's

one

of

the

nicest

and

coolest

outdoor

events

I've

ever

been

to.

Linz

Yeah.

I

mean,

one,

it's

in

St.

Pete.

Like,

you

can't

get

better

than

that.

But

it's

also

in

a

time

of

year

where

it's,

you

know,

pretty

mild.

You

can

walk

outside,

there's

lots

of

vendors.

You

can

see

the

freaking

Gulf.

It's

beautiful.

Russ

And

there's

yachts

around

you.

There's

helicopters

and

planes

landing

right

next

to

you.

Because

they

actually

closed

down

part

of

the

St.

Pete

airport

to

allow

for

the

race.

Linz

But.

Yes.

Russ

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

It's

not.

Yeah,

they

don't

shut

down

an

actual,

like,

legit

airport.

But

my

point

is,

is

it's

amazing.

They

drive

through

the

streets

of

St.

Pete

and

the

airport,

and

it

was

and

still

is

one

of

my

fondest

sports

memories.

Linz

Well,

there

you

go.

Russ

Because

of

how

intense

and

crazy

it

is.

It

sounds

like

bees.

Linz

It

does.

Sounds

like

a

beehive.

When

they

start

up

and

they

start

going,

that's.

It's

crazy.

But

I

thoroughly

enjoy

the

event,

too.

Russ

It's

good

for

kids,

too.

I

think

other.

They

definitely

need

hearing

protection

for

sure.

But

it's

a

huge,

huge

festival.

Like,

walking

around,

you

can

go

talk

to

people

that

make

the

tires.

You

can

go

talk

to

people

that

are

the

mechanics.

Linz

And

yeah,

when

we

went,

there

was

a

big

McLaren

tent.

Yeah,

that's

pretty

cool.

Russ

Yeah.

And

you

can

get

drunk

as

out

there

if

you

want.

Linz

That's

a

Florida

thing.

I

mean,

any

event

outside

or

any

event

anywhere

at

Florida,

A

kids

freaking,

like,

bounce

houses,

they

have

alcohol

for

the

parents.

Russ

They

gotta

hand

it

all

out.

Linz

Crazy.

Russ

But

I

will

say

we

went

to

a

skating

rink

and

they

didn't

have

any

alcohol.

Linz

Really.

I

didn't

even

look.

Russ

I

didn't

see

anything.

I

didn't

see

any

alcohol

in

their.

In

their

drink

thing

or,

like,

the

option

to

get

a

picture

of

beer,

which

I

wouldn't

have

gotten

anyway.

I

haven't

drank

in

over

a

year.

But

it's

round

of

applause

for

you.

Yes,

please.

Got

my

coin.

It's

right

here,

look.

Linz

Chosen

sobriety.

Let's

be

clear.

Russ

Oh,

yeah,

yeah.

But

it's

still.

Makes

me

feel

nice.

Linz

Yeah,

It's

a

good.

It's

a

good.

Russ

She's

downgrading.

My.

Linz

The

other

event

that's

happening

now

that

Florida

is

really

popular

for

is

Strawberry

Fest.

Russ

Oh,

yeah?

Well,

is

that

over?

Linz

No,

it

was

going

through

this

weekend,

I

think.

Russ

Oh,

okay.

Linz

Over

today?

Russ

Yeah,

I

think

it's.

It's

just

now

ended.

Because

it's

March

now.

Linz

Yep.

But

it

stretched

over,

you

know,

a

couple

of

days,

couple

of

weeks.

That's

the

typical

span

of

a

Strawberry

Fest.

And

they

bring

in

tons

of

people.

Russ

Dude.

It's

crazy.

Linz

Actually

have

a

concert

like

Flow

Rider.

Russ

It

was

here

this

time.

Linz

Huh?

He's

typically.

He

frequents

a

lot.

Russ

Last

year

was

ludicrous.

Linz

Reba

was

there

this

year.

Oliver

Anthony.

Russ

He

was

there.

Linz

Boy.

Sarah

Evans.

Like,

there's

a

lot

of

people

who

come

and

not,

you

know,

anything

huge

like,

you

would,

you

know,

pay

to

go

to,

like,

Emily

arena

or

whatever.

But.

Russ

Yeah,

but

Ludacris

was

here.

Linz

True.

I

mean,

but

he's.

He's

kind

of

retired,

in

my

opinion.

Russ

I

don't

care.

Linz

No,

man,

I

like

him.

Don't

get

me

wrong.

But

had

a

album

come

out.

Russ

It

doesn't

matter.

Linz

But

anyways,

so

Strawberry

Fest

is

another

outdoor

event,

and

then

coming

up

in

April

is

called

sun

and

Fun.

We

haven't

done

that

one

yet.

Russ

Is

that

the

airport

place?

Linz

Yes.

Russ

Yeah,

they

got

air

show

and

stuff.

Linz

Yes.

I

want

to

try

and

do

that

one

this

year.

Russ

That's

in

Lakeland,

right?

Linz

In

and

around.

Russ

Yeah,

Locke

Land.

Linz

Yeah,

exactly.

Russ

Okay,

well,

that's

good.

Linz

But,

yeah,

they

do,

like,

an

air

show.

There's

tons

of

stuff

for

the

kids

to

do.

Russ

You

gotta

drag

me

out

of

the

house.

Linz

Yeah,

that's

great.

You

and

your

agoraphobia.

But

I.

I

thought,

you

know,

all

these

events

coming

up,

we

really

need

to

invest

in

solo

recover,

which

is

not

brought

to

you

by

this

podcast,

but

also,

I

should

just

bite

the.

Russ

Bullet

on

some

sunscreen

and

beach

burkas.

Linz

I

think

you

need

to

patent

that

and

actually

start

to

develop

those,

because

maybe

for

people

who

are

Very

fair

skinned

like

yourself.

Yeah,

yeah,

could

be.

Russ

I

would,

I

would

totally

wear

that.

Linz

Could

be.

But

I

think

the

sun

and

fun

would

be

a

really

cool

event

for

our

kiddo.

Have

her

go

out

there

and

see

all

that.

Russ

Definitely

need

hearing

protection

for

that

too.

Linz

Absolutely.

But

I

feel

like

we've

been

really

busy

recently

with

all

the

stuff

for

our

kiddo,

like

especially

with

sun

school

stuff.

Recently

she

actually.

What?

Russ

Why

does

school

cost

so

much

money?

Linz

You

mean

extra

money?

Russ

Yeah,

yeah.

I

pay

all

these

taxes

in

our

county

and

our

school

system

then

asks

for

more

money

via

donations.

PTA

stuff.

You

know,

buy

this

fundraiser

spirit

shirt.

Linz

Buy

a

shirt.

Here's

a

shirt,

right?

Russ

Here's

Kona

Ice

that

comes

every

whatever

amount

of

days.

Yeah.

And

then

now

here's

a

school

project

that

you

now

have

to

dress

your

child

up

for

you.

Linz

Lots

of

costumes

and

lots

of

wearables.

It's

crazy.

I

agree.

But

for

this

month,

it

was

February.

It

was

for

Black

History

Month,

our

kiddo

did

a

wax

museum.

Russ

It

was

really

good.

Yeah,

really

good.

I

will

say

I'm.

I'm

sitting

here

bitching

and

complaining

about

the

money,

but

they,

the

school

put

on

this

huge

show

for

us

and

it

was

awesome.

They

did

a

really

good

job.

Linz

Such

a

good

job.

So

our

kiddo's

in

the

fourth

grade

and

her

presentation

was

on

Betsy

Coleman

and

Bessie

Coleman,

the

first

Native

American

and

African

American

pilot,

woman

pilot

to.

Russ

Achieve

a

pilot's

license.

Yes.

Linz

So

her,

our

daughter's

presentation,

she

did

the

trifold

board,

she

had

the

pictures

and

she

had

little

bits

and

pieces

of

history

for

Bessie

Coleman.

Russ

And

she

was

dressed

up

like

a

pilot.

Linz

She

was

dressed

as

a

pilot.

It

was

really

cute.

And

then

they

had

the

kids

put

stickers

on

their

hands.

And

then

you

go

around,

you

boop

the

kid's

hand

and

they

do

a

speech

on

their

person.

Russ

So

they

open

up

like

their

whole

auditorium

area

for

parents

to

then

come

in

and

walk

around

the

exhibits

and

boop.

Like

you

said,

boop

the

kids.

And,

and

have

them

do

their

little

speech

to

everybody.

It

was

so

cool

seeing

all

these

kids

dressed

up

and

then

reading

their

speeches

to

people

because

it,

I

like

it

better

than

just

doing

a

speech

in

front

of

a

bunch

of

people

because

it's

kind

of

like

more

personable

and

I

don't

know,

I

feel

like

it's

a

little

bit

less

nerve

wracking.

You're

still

talking

to

strangers,

which

stranger

danger.

But

it's,

I

don't

know,

it's

just

a

little

bit

different.

But

I

still

think

it's

good

to

get

them

used

to

talking

to

people

that's

not

their

parents

or

friends.

Linz

Right.

Russ

And

that

was

awesome

to

watch.

And

I

tried

to

hover

around

our

kid

and

boop

her

over

and

over

again

so

nobody

else

would.

But

you

yelled

at

me.

Linz

Right.

Because

you

got

to

give

her

that

experience.

And

she

wanted

it.

Russ

I

know

she

did.

Linz

She

wanted

that

experience.

She

was

all

about

it,

having

people

come

up

and

have

to

do

her

speech

and.

Russ

Yeah,

and

she's

a

very

timid

kid

too,

so

it

was

kind

of

cool

seeing

her

break

out

of

her

shell.

And,

you

know,

the

more

and

more

I

think

about

it,

the

more

and

more

I

think

she

needs

to

do

drama

type

stuff.

Acting,

speeches.

Linz

Oh,

God,

she

would

love.

Russ

I

know.

It's

like

she's

less

of

a

physical

kid

and

more

of

like.

Like

an

artist.

Linz

Yeah,

she's

always

said

that

about

our

kid.

Russ

Yeah.

Linz

Because

she.

She's

definitely

timid

until

you

put

her

on

the

spot

to

perform.

Right?

Russ

Yeah.

She

loves

dancing,

she

loves

to

sing,

she

plays

the

piano.

Linz

One

of

the

things

that

she

used

to

say

to

us

when

she

was

younger

is,

you're

not

on

stage.

Yeah,

that

was

like

her.

Russ

That

was

an

insult

from

her.

Linz

Right?

Russ

Like

she

would

come

home

and

be

like,

so.

And

so.

She

was.

She

kept

acting

like

she

was

on

stage.

And

I

told

her

she

wasn't

on

stage.

It's

like,

damn,

you

cut.

You

told

her

to

shut

the

hell

up.

Linz

I

mean,

that

kind

of

goes

into

one

of

the

questions

that

I

asked

you

earlier

this

week

and

told

you

to

shut

up

and

wait

for

the

podcast.

But

one

of

the

things

that

I

asked

you

this

week

was,

are

kids

born

with

the

instinct

of

competitiveness

or

is

it

something

that

you

learn

from

your

surroundings?

Is

it

nature

versus

nurture

kind

of

deal?

And

we

had

an

interesting

discussion

with

a

lot

of

people,

and

for

me,

I

feel

like

it's

both.

I

feel

like

it's

both

nature

and

nurture

that

you

can

be

born

with

a

sense

of

competitiveness,

but

if

your

family

is

really

into

competition

sports

or

those

kind

of

things,

or

you

are

an

overachiever,

like,

you

learn

to

be

even

more

competitive.

That's

my

opinion.

Russ

Can

I

talk

now?

Linz

Yes.

Russ

I

think.

I

think

you're

born

with

it

100%.

And

I

think

that

because

of.

We

have

parts

in

us

that

have

existed

since

we

were

cavemen.

The

amygdala,

for

example,

fight

or

flight,

that's

still

there.

Even

though

we

don't

live

in

the

woods,

we're

not

being

stalked

by

freaking

saber

tooth

tigers.

We

still

have

that.

That

thing

going

on.

And

Damn,

my

stomach.

Wow.

But

it's.

I

think

that

is

the

same

when

it

comes

to

competition.

Like,

survival

of

the

fittest

is

a

competition.

Linz

Yeah.

Russ

And

we

are

part

of

survival

of

the

fittest.

Now,

nowadays,

we

don't

act

like

it

because

we

have

everything

handed

to

us.

You.

But

back

then,

when

civilization

and

stuff

started

and

humans

were

roaming

the

earth

along

with

dinosaurs

and

crap,

we

were

competing

with

other

animals.

Linz

And

I

hear

you.

I

get

your

point.

But

then

you

see

kids

out

on

a

baseball

field

or

out

on

a

soccer

field,

whatever

field

that

they.

Their

parents

are

putting

them

on

as

a.

As

a

sport,

Right?

Russ

Yes.

Linz

And

you

see

them

chasing

butterflies.

They're

not

paying

attention.

They

are

full

out,

like,

just

in

their

own

world.

Because

the

sport,

the

competitiveness

isn't

important

to

them

or

the

kids

who

never

join

a

sport,

even

as

teenagers

or

as

adults.

Like,

they

don't

enjoy

team

sports.

So

to

me,

it's

like,

to

an

extent,

right.

We're

born

with

an

instinct

to

fight

flight

from

danger,

but.

Russ

And

compete

for

food.

Linz

But

we

don't

have

to

compete

for

food

in

the

United

States

of

America.

Russ

Typically,

not

anymore.

But

that

still

doesn't

mean.

I

mean,

we

don't

have

to

fight

or

flight

anymore

either.

Linz

Right.

Russ

It's

still

there.

Linz

That's

stress

response.

Russ

That's

where

anxiety

comes

from.

You

can't

tell

me,

man,

you

are

the

maddest

person

in

the

world

when

you

don't

eat.

Linz

I

am

not

our

daughter.

Yeah.

Russ

You

can't

tell

me

that

ain't

no

fighter.

That's

not

part

of

the

caveman

aspect.

Linz

No.

Russ

Yes.

Linz

Angry,

being

hangry.

Russ

Yeah,

you're

right.

You

want

to

go

out

there

and

you

want

to

eat

a

squirrel

raw.

Linz

No,

but

I

mean,

seriously,

though,

if

you

think

about,

like,

the

kids

who

are

out

on

the

field,

whose

parents

are

forcing

them

to

be

there,

they

have

no

sense

of

competition.

Russ

Okay,

so

they

don't

have

competition

for

sports.

But

you've

seen

the

videos

of

toddlers

who

have

siblings

that

are

the

same

age.

They

could

be

twins,

and

they

are,

like

eight

months

old

or

whatever.

One

sibling's

playing

with

something,

and

the

other

one

comes

up

and

takes

it,

and

the

other

one

flops

around

and

dives

like

it's

like

they're

dying.

Linz

Like,

it's

how.

Russ

They

were

not.

They

were

not

taught

that.

That

is

just.

You

came

out

of

there,

flying

out

of

there

with

that

freaking

competition.

Gene

100.

Linz

I

mean,

but

that's

sibling

rivalry,

though.

Russ

I

feel

like,

where

did

that

come

from?

Linz

I

mean,

okay,

you

can

say

that's

an

instinct.

Russ

Great

white

Sharks

eat

each

other

in

the

womb.

Linz

But,

I

mean,

but

is

that

like.

Russ

I

don't

know

what

that

have

to

do

with

anything,

but

it

does.

Linz

Half.

Are

you

okay?

Russ

I

don't

know.

Linz

Probably.

Russ

I'm

stroking

out.

Yeah,

I

think

that's

what's

happening.

My

competition.

My

stomach's

eating

my

brain.

Linz

So.

You're

the

one

who

wants

a

squirrel

right

now.

Russ

I

do.

Linz

Okay.

Gotcha.

Well,

I

think

it's

an

interesting

concept

that,

you

know,

whether

it's

nature

versus

nurture.

But

you

brought

up

toddlers,

so

let's

jump

into

this

top

topic.

What

happened

at

the

White

House

recently?

Oh,

a

bunch

of

toddlers.

Oh,

yeah.

Russ

Don't

get

me

started.

The

idea

that

I

gotta

pull

out

in

my

notes.

Linz

The

idea

that

we're

having

arguments,

like

full

blown

arguments

in

front

of

media.

Like,

I

get

that

it's

probably

provoked

or

maybe

some

people,

they

get

staged,

but

it's

like,

why

are

we

doing

this

in

front

of

the

media?

Like,

you're

giving

them

a

story.

Let's

not

give

them

stories.

Maybe

that's

the

purpose.

I

don't

know.

Russ

Okay.

Did

you

watch

the

entire

thing?

Linz

No,

I

wouldn't

say

the

entire

thing.

I

watched

probably

the

pat.

Russ

The

last

10

minutes,

which

is

what

most

people

watched.

Linz

Right.

Russ

Which

was

where

it

got

pretty

fiery

in

there.

Okay.

I

watched

the

entire

50

minutes

of

start

to

finish.

Linz

Okay.

Russ

Okay.

Now,

if

you

are

in

a

position

as

Zelensky

is,

where

your

country

is

literally

getting.

Your

people

are

dying

and

you

are

being

offered

our

help,

the

United

States

help,

to

help

broker

a

peace

deal

with

Russia,

and

your

goal

is

to

come

here

and

essentially

start

the

process

of

signing

said

peace

deal.

Okay.

Why

would

you

come

here

in

the

Oval

Office

and

start

calling

the

other

side

that's

not

there?

And

I'm

talking

about

Putin.

I'm

not

saying

he's

a

good

guy.

I

don't

like

the

dude

either.

But

why

are

you

going

to

start

calling

him

a

terrorist

and

a

murderer

when

you're

trying

to

broker

a

peace

deal

for

him

or

he's.

He's

one

of

the

parties

to

the

peace

deal.

So

you're

going

to

go

in

there,

you're

going

to

insult

the

guy

that

has

to

come

to

the

table

too?

That's

not

how

negotiations

work.

You

don't

shit

on

somebody

while

you're

trying

to

negotiate

a

peace

deal.

In

my

opinion.

I

don't

think

Zelensky

wants

a

peace

deal

from.

From

his

body

language

and

the

shit

he

was

saying

in

this

meeting.

He

does

not

want

a

peace

deal.

Trump

would

say

something.

This

dude

would

throw

his

arms

up

in

frustration.

And

then

Vance

started

digging

into

him

because

he

was

being

disrespectful.

And

from

what

I

saw

and

what

I

heard,

he

called

him

a

bitch

in

Ukrainian

or

whatever

their.

Their.

They're

slang.

He

called

him

a

bitch.

And

then

there

was

another

point

in

time

where

he

mumbled

under

his

breath,

their

slang

version

of,

fuck

you.

You're

over

here

in

the

US

in

the

Oval

Office.

You

are

being

a

disrespectful

little

prick.

I

think

them

shitting

on

him

in

front

of

the

media

was

perfectly

warranted

because

he

just

showed

his

true

colors.

That

from

what

I

saw,

he

did

not

want

peace.

He

does

not

want

peace.

Trump

advance.

They

kept

saying,

we

need

to

do

the

negotiations.

We

need

this,

this,

this,

and

this.

And

he's

like,

you

can't

negotiate

with

Putin.

It's

like.

But

we

weren't

there

to

help

proceed

with

this.

Like,

this

whole

thing

was

about

us

signing

minerals,

a

minerals

deal

with

them,

right?

Which

then

allows

the

US

to

have

economic

interest

in

Ukraine,

which

then

makes

Russia

less

likely

to

attack

them

when

we're

over

there

and

they're

supplying

us

with

minerals.

We

have

an

economic

interest

in

Ukraine.

Now,

what

NATO

wants

and

what

Ukraine

wants

is

for

Ukraine

to

join

NATO.

Do

you

know

what

that

does?

That

makes

Ukraine

have

to

conform

to

NATO

military

purchases,

which

is

also

fucked

up.

Boeing,

Raytheon,

all

those

defense

contractors,

they

have

to

buy

from

them.

They

lock

down

an

entire

market.

What

we

have

a

problem

here

in

the

United

States

with

the

military

industrial

complex

and

how

they

are.

They.

They

want

us

in

a

perpetual

state

of

war

because

how

does.

How

do

these

defense

contractors

make

money?

They

don't.

Yeah,

go

ahead.

I

want

to

hear

it.

Oh,

yeah,

yeah.

Wait,

wait.

One

more

thing.

One

more

thing.

So

another

thing

that.

That.

That

I

just

read

was

the

fact

that

Obama's

national

security

team

actually

called

Zelensky

before

his

meeting

and

essentially

told

him

to

not

accept

any

of

this

stuff,

any

type

of

agreement

with

the

current

administration.

Do

you

know

what

that's

called?

That's

called

a

Logan

act

violation.

Because

an

administration

that's

not

in

power

is

contacting

a

foreign

government

to

try

and

persuade

them

to

do

things.

Okay,

your

turn.

Linz

Do

you

want

to

have

a

conversation

about

this?

Do

you

want

to

just

vent

and

lament?

Russ

I

said

enough.

Linz

I

will

sit

here

and

listen

if

that's

what

you

would

like.

Russ

Well,

no,

I

didn't

say

enough.

Let

me

ask

you

this.

Let

me

ask

you

this.

As

a

United

States

citizen,

how

comfortable

would

you

feel

if

China

or

Russia

set

up

A

military

base

in

Mexico

or

Canada.

Linz

Can

I

talk

now?

Russ

Yes.

Linz

Okay.

I'd

like

to

have

a

conversation

with

you

about

this.

Russ

Okay.

Linz

But

I

feel

like

you

gave

a

lot

of

the

exposition

about

what

happened.

Right.

Okay.

So

let's

have

a

conversation.

Russ

Okay.

Linz

To

me,

I

think

there

are

a

bunch

of

things

wrong.

Right.

Russ

Of

course

we

don't

want

World

War

Three.

Linz

Well,

true.

Right.

So

first

option,

right.

If

you

think

about

the

different

ways

that

this

could

go,

option

one

is

Putin

takes

over

Ukraine.

Right?

Like

that's.

That's

his

goal.

Russ

I

don't

know.

I

think

his

goal.

I

don't

know

what

his

goal

is.

I'm

not

even

gonna.

I'm

not

even

gonna

speculate

because

I

have

no

idea.

Linz

Okay?

Russ

I'm

not

Putin.

Linz

Okay,

fine.

But

if

you

were

to

speculate,

he

wants

to

take

over

Ukraine,

he

wants

to

make

sure

NATO's

not

going

in

there,

he

wants

to

turn

back

the

clock

to

1993.

Whatever

you

think.

Russ

Ultimately,

I

think

his

goal

is

to

not

let

NATO

in

there

because

then

you

have

major

weapons

systems

that

are

your

neighboring

country.

Linz

Right.

Just

like

we

would

never

allow

for

Russia

to

have

missiles

in

Cuba.

Right,

Exactly.

Russ

Right.

So

what.

Luckily,

it

was

just

Cuba

and

we

were

able

to

blockade

them

and

stop

that

from

happening.

But

what

if.

What

if

they

did

it

in

Mexico

and

they

were

actually

successful?

Linz

Right.

Russ

Yeah.

Linz

So

that's

number

one.

Right.

Problem

number

one.

Number

two

is

we've

spent

billions.

Russ

350

billion,

I

believe

is

the

number.

Linz

Billions.

Sending

it

over

to

Ukraine.

We

are

trying

to

help

them.

We

are

trying

to

support

them

through

what

is

a

crisis.

Right.

And

in

doing

so,

to

me,

it

sounds

like

we're

fueling

a

war.

Russ

We

are.

Linz

Right.

Russ

Because

we're

giving

them

arms,

which.

This

is

the

other

thing.

How

does

Russia

feel

about

us

giving

guns

to

a

country

that

is

now

shooting

at

Russia,

mind

you,

with

our.

Linz

Guns,

mind

you,

we

don't

like

Russia.

Right.

Russ

Okay.

And

that's

fine.

Linz

Right.

But

we're

not

trying

to

be

involved

in

a

war.

Russ

Well,

we're

not.

Linz

That's

the

point.

Russ

We're

not

trying

to

be

involved

in

a

war.

And

let's

not

do

World

War

Three.

Linz

Well.

And

let's

not

support

a

war.

Right?

Like

that.

That's.

We've

got

enough

going

on

at

home.

Russ

Yeah.

Our.

Our

goal

is

to

eliminate

a

global

conflict.

Linz

Right.

So

with

the

ceasefire.

We're

trying

to

have

a

ceasefire.

And

mind

you,

there

have

been

multiple

attempts

at

this.

Multiple

ceasefires

have

been

signed

up

until

this

point.

Russ

Right.

Linz

So

the

multiple

ceasefires,

it's

like.

Well,

you're

taking

Putin

at

his

word.

Right.

So

what?

How

do

we

make

everyone

happy?

Right.

So

option

two,

which

is

what

I

understand,

and

again,

we

are

on

unfiltered

union.

This

is

opinions

only.

But

when

it

comes

to

what

the

current

administration

is

trying

to

do

by

the

economic

buy

in

of

the

American

people,

of

the

minerals

that

we're

trying

to

do,

and

allowing

Putin

to

keep

a

specific

piece

of

Ukraine

that

rolls

it

back

to

1993,

it's

like

trying

to

create

a

ceasefire,

an

appeasement,

to

have

peace.

Right.

Russ

The

goal

is

100%

peace.

Linz

Right.

I

think

everyone

can

agree

that

that

is

the

goal.

But

whether

or

not

you

agree

with

the

way

we're

going

about

it,

totally

your

opinion,

respect

it.

But

that's

what's

currently

being

talked

about.

What's

trying

to

happen?

Then

you

have

them

getting

in

a

room

and

essentially

acting

like

children.

Like,

come

on,

you're

adults.

Let's

have

an

actual

conversation

behind

closed

doors,

try

and

get

to

a

negotiation.

I

get

that

those

conversations

can

get

heated,

but

you

don't

do

that

out

in

front

and

millions

of

people

to

watch

and

have

everybody

see

what's

happening.

That's

my

opinion.

So

option

two,

we

talked

about

that.

Option

three.

Option

three

is

we

keep

feeding

Ukraine,

keep

giving

them

all

of

these

resources.

Right.

And

Russia

isn't

going

to

stop.

Right.

Russ

Russia's

not

going

to

stop.

And

eventually

it

escalates.

Linz

Exactly.

And

what

does

that

escalation

look

like?

Russ

World

War

Three.

Linz

Exactly.

Russ

Nuclear

weapons

may

be

fired,

and

that

would

be

awful.

Linz

Right.

Russ

Because

one

person

fires

them,

everybody

fires

them,

we're

all

dead.

Linz

Yep.

So

hanging

on

the

precipice

there

with

option

three.

Right.

Maybe

it

doesn't

go

that

far.

Maybe

you

don't

think

it

ever

would

go

that

far.

We

could

keep

feeding

the

war

and

it

would

be

fine.

But

if

you

look

at

history,

when

someone

is

feeding

someone

a

bunch

of

weapons

and

helping

them

with

the

war,

it

never

goes

well.

Look

at

Vietnam,

look

at

Japan.

Right?

Russ

Japan

attacked

us,

I

believe,

because

we

were

blockading

their

economic

stuff.

I

don't

remember

the

exact

reason,

but

they

didn't

attack

us

unprovoked.

We

weren't

directly

involved

in

that.

But

I

think

maybe

it

was

because

we

were

providing

arms

to.

Linz

I

think

we

were.

Russ

Yeah,

yeah,

yeah,

yeah,

yeah.

For

sure.

And

they

attacked

us.

So

what's,

what's

the

difference

between

what

we're

doing

now,

sending

planes,

sending

tanks,

arms,

all

kinds

of

stuff

over

there?

What's

the

difference?

Linz

Now,

some

people

may

say

Russia's

evil.

Russ

Okay,

that's

fine.

Linz

And

that

can

be

your

opinion,

sure.

But

the

bigger

picture,

beyond

bad

Russia,

is

that

you

have

a

building

tension.

And

if

you're

trying

to

say

that

Ukraine

should

be

NATO,

you

align

them

with

allies

and

then

Russia

has

allies,

what

happens

exactly?

Russ

You

go

out

into

a

full

scale

world

war.

China's

involved,

North

Korea,

I

know

they're

already

semi

involved,

but

they

will

be

involved.

And

then

we

have

to

then

jump

in,

full

troops

on

the

ground

stuff.

We

don't

want

that.

Everybody's

done

with

war

here.

We've

had

a

fucking

perpetual

war

in

the

Middle

East.

Let's

just

stop.

So

let's

not

do

this

shit

again.

And

I

think

that

was

the

point

of

this

meeting

and

the

point

of

our

side

going

off

on

this

dude,

because

he

came

to

the

table,

not,

from

what

I

saw,

not

wanting

peace.

His

whole

thing

was,

you

can't

trust

Putin.

He's

a

murderer,

he's

a

freaking

terrorist.

Linz

He

has

a

good

point.

You

can't

trust

Putin.

But

what

is

the

alternative?

Russ

Do

you

negotiate?

How

do

you

do

that

in

a

negotiation?

So

if

me

and

you,

if

you're

trying

to

buy

a

house

off

me

and

I

say

you're

a

fucker,

are

you

going

to

buy

that

house

off

of

me?

I

bet,

I

bet

you

suck

having

bang

bang.

Are

you

going

to

buy

the

house

off

of

me?

Your

only

fans

is

the

worst.

Linz

And

some

quick.

Russ

No,

but

I'm

just

saying

you

don't

insult

people

who

are,

they're

the

other

party

to

a

negotiation.

That's

not

how

negotiations

work.

If

you're

in

a

business

and

you're

trying

to

negotiate

with

a

partner

to

buy

out

their

business,

and

you

say

your

business

is.

You

ran

your

business

to

the

ground

because

you're

a

shitty

businessman,

they're

going

to

be

like,

all

right,

I'll

go

find

another

buyer,

Right?

That's

what's

happening

to

an

extent.

It's

not

a

business,

it's

a

war.

It's

lives

being

lost.

Have

you

seen

how

they

have

to

freaking

build

their

manpower

in

Ukraine?

Our

friends,

the

saddest,

most

horrific

thing

in

the

world.

I

just

watched

like

five

videos.

Linz

Why?

Russ

Because

you

have

to

do

this

to

understand

what's

happening.

I

don't

like

to

talk

about

stuff

unless

I

look

and

I

understand

the

situation.

Linz

You

have

to

look

at

both

sides.

Russ

I,

I

know.

Linz

Very

clear.

Russ

I

know,

but

what,

but

this

dude

that,

that

in

my

opinion,

doesn't

want

peace.

You

know

how

he,

he

conscripts

soldiers

by

force,

he

kidnaps

them.

Linz

Yep.

Russ

I

saw

a

bunch

of

videos.

Dude

is

walking

his

dog,

right?

Walking

his

dog

down

the

street,

he's

probably

an

18,

19

year

old

dude.

So

still

a

kid.

They

pull

up

in

like

an

unmarked

van

and

five

soldiers

get

out,

kidnap

him,

Dogs

just

running,

running

away.

I'm

like,

this

dude's

trying

to

walk

his

dog,

he's

probably

got

to

pick

up

shit.

Linz

So

a

friend

of

a

friend

actually

posted

on

Facebook

recently

that

their

mother.

So

it's

a

very

indirect

story,

so

I'm

going

to

quote

it,

saying

that

I

don't

know

this

to

be

factual,

but

a

friend

of

a

friend,

the

mother

actually

had

their

son

abducted

from

while

they

were

in

Ukraine

to

be

conscripted

into

the

war.

She

actually

had

to

pay

a

ransom

in

order

to

get

him

out.

And

she's

American,

but

I'm

not

sure

of

her

nationality.

Russ

But

does

she

live

here?

Linz

I

believe

she

lives

here,

yes.

Russ

So

my.

What

I'm

trying

to

say

is

she

had

to

pay

a

ransom

even

though

we're

giving

them

billions

upon

billions

of

dollars.

Yeah.

It's

not

good.

Linz

But

once

they

dropped

him

off,

wherever

they

dropped

this,

her

son

off,

the

next

person

was

there

to

kidnap

him

and

bring

him

in

to

conscript

him

again.

Russ

Yeah.

Linz

So.

Russ

So

they're

human

trafficking.

Linz

This

is

word

of

mouth

now.

And

you

can

quote

me,

don't

quote

me,

but

the

stuff

that's

happening

that

people

are

saying

is

happening,

you

have

to

want

it

to

stop.

Like

if

you

are

anyone

who

is

a

good

person,

you

have

to

want

it

to

stop.

Russ

Yeah.

And,

and

getting

it

to

stop,

you

might

have

to

make

a

couple

concessions,

which

means

bringing

Putin's

evil

ass

to

the

table,

unfortunately.

But

your

country

is

on

the

brink

of

total

annihilation.

You

are

conscripting

people

by

kidnapping

them

and.

Linz

Or

by.

The

world

is

on

the

brink

of

a

major

war.

Russ

Right.

Of

we

could

seriously.

I

don't

think

people

lean

into

this

enough.

Nuclear

war

is

a

possibility.

If

you

think

Putin's

evil,

imagine

if

we

had

to

send

boots

on

the

ground.

Linz

Well,

if

you

think

Putin's

evil,

he

has,

he

has

a

button.

Russ

That's

what

I'm

saying.

And

once

he

starts

feeling

in

a

corner,

what

do

you

think

he's

going

to

do?

Do

you

think

this

guy,

who

Everybody.

I

don't

know

the

dude.

But

he

is

not

well

regarded

here

and

that's

totally

fine.

I

don't

really

like

what

I

read

about

him.

I

don't

think

he's

a

good

person.

But

if

you

back

him

into

a

corner

by

us,

as

the

US

putting

boots

on

the

ground,

all

of

Europe,

all

of

NATO

putting

boots

on

the

ground.

Linz

Kitty

has

clothes.

Russ

Yeah.

He's

going

to

fight

and

he's

going

to

end

up

using

weapons

that

then

we

have

to

counter

with

and

then

we

all

die.

I

don't

want

to

do

that.

Linz

I

really

hope.

Russ

I

want

to

eat

a

lunchable

tomorrow.

Linz

That

Dodge

does,

in

fact

end

quickly.

Meaning,

you

know,

Elon

and

all

his

efforts

to

find

all

the

waste

and

all

the

things

he

says

that

he's

doing.

I

really

hope

that

ends

quickly,

that

he

fixes

all

the

things

he

says

he's

fixing

and

then

he

can

focus

back

on

his

SpaceX.

Because

we

need

to

go

to

Mars.

Yeah,

we

need

to

go

to

Mars.

Russ

Yep.

I

don't.

It's

so.

It's

so

terrifying,

though.

Like,

we

have

to.

We

have

to.

If

we

can.

Which

that's

what

this

meeting

was

about.

To

try.

We

have

to

try

because

the

next

step

is

not

a

good

step.

Linz

Right.

It's

gonna

get

crazy.

Russ

All

I'm

saying

is,

I'm.

First

off,

I'm

glad

I'm

about

to

be

37.

Right.

Yeah.

I'm

about

to

be

37

years

old.

Linz

You

forgot?

Russ

And

I

got

OCD,

so

I

ain't

getting

conscripted

into

no

military

service.

So

the

draft.

Yeah.

I

can't

get

drafted,

but.

And

I

don't

want

anybody

to

get

drafted

into

a

war

like

that.

It

would

be

brutal.

Linz

Yeah.

Russ

So

we

haven't

seen

world

war

and

we

don't

want

to

see

another

one.

Linz

Nope,

nope,

nope.

Russ

But,

but

you

have

to

understand

that

to

do

this,

to

do,

to

broker

peace,

you

have

to

bring

the.

The

party

that

is

a

piece,

you.

Linz

Know,

both

parties

to

the

table.

Russ

Yeah.

You

have

to

bring

both

parties

to

the

table.

And

to

do

that,

you

don't

need

to

be

insulting

him

in

American

media.

That's

not

how

you

do

it.

Linz

If

you

want

to

insult

behind

closed

doors.

Russ

Right.

Linz

Have

at

it.

Russ

That's

what

I'm

saying.

Linz

Right.

Russ

But

the

first

or

even

if

you.

Linz

Want

to

insult

Trump

behind

closed

doors,

have

at

it.

Russ

Right.

Linz

Stop

doing

it

in

front

of

everybody.

Russ

You

don't

say

you

and

you

don't

say

you

or

under

your

breath.

Linz

That's

what

he

said.

Russ

You

watch

it

and

I

bet

you

you'll

think

the

same

thing.

There's

videos

of

them.

Somebody

with

like

audio

degree.

I

don't

have

one

of

them,

but

they.

Linz

Mars.

So

Mars.

Russ

Why

are

we

skipping?

We're

done.

Linz

Mars

and

the

moon.

Like,

which

one

sounds

better?

Russ

The

Mars

looks

like

a

beach

with

no

water.

Linz

I

think

it

looks

more

like

a

desert.

Russ

I

mean,

that's

okay.

It

looks

hot.

Linz

Yeah.

Russ

So

I

prefer

hot.

Linz

Yeah.

Over

the

Moon?

Russ

Yeah.

Linz

No

atmosphere.

Russ

I

think

the

moon's

cold.

Linz

Yeah.

So

Mars.

Russ

Yeah.

Linz

But

I

can't

stick

my

head

out

a

window,

so

I

don't

know

how.

Russ

Oh,

my

God.

We

going

after

this.

Ask

the

question.

Ask

the

question.

Linz

No,

I'm

making

a

statement.

I

can't.

I

cannot

stick

my

head

out

a

window.

Russ

You

can

breathe.

There

you

go.

You

can

stick

your

head

out

of.

Linz

A

window,

but

I

can't

breathe

when

I

do

it.

That's

the

weirdest.

It

could

never

be

a

dog.

Russ

I

was

getting

ready

to

say,

if.

You

better

not

reincarnate

as

a

dog.

Linz

Because

if

you

do

live

on

Mars,

you

will

die

because

it's

forcing

air,

right?

I

don't

know.

Russ

I

stuck

my

head

out.

So

her

question

today.

Can

you

stick

your

head

out

of

a

window

and

breathe?

Linz

I

can't.

Russ

And

I

was

like,

I

have

no

idea.

So

on

the

way

to

breakfast,

I

was

driving.

So

she's

sticking

her

head

out

the

window

like

a

dog.

Linz

No,

hold

on.

I

was

sticking

my

head

out

the

window

because

my

hair

was

wet.

I

was

trying

to

blow

it

dry

because

y'all

were

hungry.

I

was

trying

to

get

out

the

door

quick.

Okay.

Russ

Sticking

your

head

out

the

window

like

a

dog,

and

you

couldn't

breathe.

I'm

like,

man,

what

the

heck?

So

I'm

on

the

way

back

from

breakfast.

I'm

like,

I

gotta

try

this.

Linz

I

drove.

Russ

I

could

breathe.

I

survive.

Linz

I

can't

skydive.

Like,

there's

so

many

things

that

I

can't

do

because

I

can't

breathe.

I

probably

pass

out.

Russ

But

I

will

say,

though,

that

you

sent

me

and

my

dad

to.

What

is

it

called?

Linz

I

fly.

Russ

I

fly,

yeah.

Indoor

skydiving.

And

I

was

concerned

about

not

being

able

to

breathe,

so

I

got

the

full.

I

got

the

full

face

helmet.

And,

yeah,

that

was.

That

actually

helped.

It

does

feel

funny.

Linz

I

can't.

Russ

It's

like

forcing

air

in

and

your

body

kind

of

like.

It's

almost

like

short

breaths.

Linz

When

you

stuck

your

head

out

the

window,

though,

you

were

doing

like.

Like

all

this

kind

of

breathing,

like.

No,

breathe

normal.

I'm

talking

about

breathing

normal.

Russ

Well,

I

can't

breathe

normal,

so

you

can't

breathe.

Breathing

normal

and

breathing

are

the

same

thing.

In

breathing,

whatever

you

say

is

abnormal.

I'm

still

alive.

You.

If

you.

If

we

both

went

down

the

road,

somebody

else

driving,

I

could

stick

my

head

out

the

window

and

survive

longer

than

you.

You

would

die.

Linz

You

would

break

the

wind

tension,

though,

if

I

was

behind

you.

So

I'd

be

okay.

Russ

You'd

be

on

the

other

Side.

Linz

Oh,

okay.

Russ

You're

on

the

left

side.

I'm

on

the

right

side.

You

stick

your

head

out

the

window.

We

will

see.

I

will

live

longer.

Linz

I

won't

die.

I'll

just

pass

out

and

die.

Obi

has

11

goals

left.

Russ

I

know.

I'm

so

excited.

I

really

do

hope

he

gets

it.

Linz

Well,

you

and

I

were

talking

about

it

when

we

watched

the

game

the

other

night

that

would

he

ever

be

beat?

Like,

was

there

anybody

else

who

could

ever

get

close

once

OV

beats

this?

Russ

The

fact

that

he

has

made

it

this

far

is

insane.

Goalie

goaltending

now.

I

mean,

yes,

it's

athletic

and

everything,

but

their

pads

are

huge.

The

goal

is

small.

It's

like,

I

could

be

a

fat

goalie.

I

mean,

obviously,

I

don't

have

skills

like

them,

but

I'm

just

saying

I

could

block

shots

because

of

the

huge

pads.

Linz

Right.

Russ

Gretzky

didn't

have

that

back

then.

So

the

fact

that

OVI

is

about

to

surpass

this

dude

when

the

league

has

changed

so

much

and

has

made

scoring

a

lot

harder

is

huge.

Linz

Yeah.

Russ

And

he's

going

to

do

it,

And

I

don't

think

anybody

else

will

ever

do

it

unless

they

somehow

change

it.

Change

the

goalie

pads

back

down.

You

know,

they

come

up

with

new

composites

and

stuff

like

that

to

where

they're

still

protected,

but

they're.

The

sizing

is

a

lot

smaller,

which

I

think

they

should

do

it

if

they

can.

Linz

Watching

some

of

those

reels

of,

like,

old

hockey.

Russ

Yeah.

Without

helmets

on.

Linz

And

without

helmets,

with

the

goalies

having,

like,

tiny

little

heads,

like,

barely

anything

on

them.

Russ

Right.

And

that's

when

Gretzky

played.

Linz

And

then

flopping

on

the

ice,

like,

it's

crazy.

Russ

Well,

the.

Like,

the

Mighty

Ducks

symbol.

The

helmet.

Linz

Mm.

Russ

The

Jason

mask.

Linz

Right.

Russ

How

does

that

protect

your

face?

It's

like

that

thing

is,

the

puck's

gonna

hit

you

in

the

face,

and

the

whole

thing

is

smashing

into

you.

I

don't

get

it.

No.

Linz

But

I

think

we're

almost

there.

He's

gonna

do

it.

Russ

I

hope

he.

Linz

I

think

it's

gonna

be

this

season.

Russ

And

I

really

want

to

make

sure

that

we

have

it

on

tv,

at

least

when

he's,

like,

real

close.

Linz

What

if

he

plays

Tampa?

I

think

they're

done

for

the

season.

No,

they

might

have

one

more.

I

think

that

was

their

third

meet

they

just

played.

Might

have

been

their

fourth.

Russ

Tampa

one.

See,

and

that's

the

problem

is,

like,

I

have

two

hockey

teams.

I

will

always

root

for

the

Caps,

always.

Because

that's

where

we're

from.

And

OV

is

like

our

favorite

player

ov.

Linz

Oshi

Backstrom's

getting

ready

to

retire.

Thought

that

was

crazy.

Russ

I

think

he

was

more

forced

than

anything

else.

Yeah,

he.

Hip.

Hip

shaving

surgery

or

something

like

that.

Surface,

Same

thing.

Linz

I'm

gonna

shave

your

hip.

Russ

I

bet

that

you're

probably

getting

sandpaper

and

sand

it

down.

He

got

surfaces

done.

Linz

All

right.

Russ

Yeah.

Love

you.

Linz

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