#65 - Pierced Ears, Digital Fears, and Eye Opening Hugs

June 24, 2024

#65 - Pierced Ears, Digital Fears, and Eye Opening Hugs

Unfiltered Union

In this milestone 50th episode of Unfiltered Union, Russ and Lindz recount their daughter's brave journey to getting her ears pierced at Claire's, discussing her love for sushi and escalator rides. They reflect on their podcast's evolution since 2016, highlighting their growth from amateur podcasters to a more polished production with occasional guest appearances.

The couple delves into various contemporary topics, including the changing landscape of country music, with Russ expressing fascination with artists like Hardy who blur genre lines. They also explore broader societal issues, such as the controversy surrounding Louisiana's law to post Ten Commandments in school classrooms, passionately discussing the importance of separation of church and state.

Throughout the episode, Russ and Lindz touch on several modern technological and cultural trends, including the rising costs of streaming services like Spotify, Amazon's plans for AI-enhanced Alexa, and a thought-provoking discussion about corporate control over employees' social media posts. They approach these topics with their characteristic blend of humor, personal perspective, and unfiltered commentary.

Podcast Title

Unfiltered Union

Host

Russ and Lindz

Publish Date

June 24, 2024

Categories

Episode Notes

In Episode 50 of Unfiltered Union, Russ and Lindz, who claim 76 years of wedded bliss despite being just 35, navigate the wild ride of launching their Substack, their daughter's fearless ear-piercing despite a needle phobia, and the "yee-haw" crisis in modern country music. Sprinkled with laughter, they debate streaming service woes, Cowboy Cheerleaders, and the questionable morality of posting the Ten Commandments in classrooms. They even squeeze in some mall nostalgia and spontaneous dream analysis, making it an unfiltered quirky adventure from start to finish.

  1. Country music is experiencing an identity crisis, with modern artists like Hardy blending genres beyond traditional country sounds

  2. The podcast hosts argue that public schools should focus on core academic subjects and avoid incorporating religious texts or social policies

  3. Streaming services like Spotify continue to raise prices, frustrating subscribers who feel locked into their platforms due to personalized content

  4. The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders operate as a self-sufficient business unit, earning minimum wage-like salaries while being integral to the football experience

  5. Companies increasingly attempt to control employees' social media content, potentially infringing on personal expression and values

  6. Amazon is planning to charge for an advanced AI version of Alexa, potentially missing the mark in the generative AI technology race

  7. The hosts celebrated their daughter's milestone of getting her ears pierced, demonstrating their approach of transparent communication and supportive parenting

  8. Modern digital services increasingly operate on a 'you own nothing' model, where ongoing subscriptions are required to access content and features

  1. "There's no such thing as country music anymore."  - Russ

    - A provocative statement about the evolution of music genres, specifically country music's transformation from traditional sounds to more pop and metal-influenced styles.

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  2. "I don't think school, public schools, a state run thing or a government run thing should be involved in religion or social issues."  - Russ

    - A strong stance on separation of church and state, highlighting the belief that educational institutions should focus solely on core academic subjects.

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  3. "You own nothing. In the future, you will own nothing and you'll be happy."  - Russ

    - A thought-provoking quote about the changing nature of ownership in the digital age, reflecting concerns about subscription-based services and digital rights.

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  4. "We can have our own opinions and still be married at the end of the day."  - Lindz

    - A succinct summary of the podcast's core philosophy of maintaining relationships despite disagreements.

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  5. "Schools are turning into indoctrination stations."  - Russ

    - A controversial statement critiquing the expanding role of schools beyond traditional academic education.

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Chapter 1: Milestone Moments: 50 Episodes Strong

Russ and Lindz celebrate their 50th podcast episode, reflecting on their podcasting journey since 2016 and the evolution of their show. They discuss the improvements in their recording setup and the addition of guest episodes, highlighting their core mission of maintaining a relationship despite differing opinions.

  • The podcast has evolved from its early days with improved production quality and guest appearances.
  • Russ and Lindz's relationship is built on the ability to disagree while maintaining mutual respect.

Key Quotes

  1. "We can have our own opinions and still be married at the end of the day." by Lindz

    - Captures the essence of the podcast's philosophy of respectful dialogue

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  2. "This go around has been over a year and three months, I think. I think we started in March of last year." by Russ

    - Highlights the podcast's consistent commitment and growth

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Chapter 2: Parenting Milestone: Ears Pierced and Escalator Adventures

The couple shares a heartwarming story about their nine-year-old daughter getting her ears pierced at the mall. They discuss her bravery, love for sushi, and fascination with escalators, while also noting the surprising busyness of the mall and challenging the narrative of malls becoming obsolete.

  • The parents prioritize educating their child about decisions and supporting her choices.
  • Contrary to popular belief, malls appear to be bustling with activity, challenging the narrative of their decline.

Key Quotes

  1. "We don't lie to her. We show her videos of other people doing it. We explain the process." by Russ

    - Demonstrates their approach to transparent parenting

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  2. "You can buy that kid off with sushi. It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen." by Russ

    - Provides a humorous insight into their daughter's unique personality

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Chapter 3: The Streaming Subscription Squeeze

Russ and Lindz discuss the rising costs of digital subscriptions, focusing on recent price increases from Spotify and potential changes to Amazon's Alexa service. They explore the broader trend of subscription-based services and the increasing financial burden on consumers.

  • Subscription services are increasingly raising prices, creating financial strain for consumers.
  • There's a growing trend towards digital services that prioritize access over ownership.

Key Quotes

  1. "Everything's a subscription anymore. You can't own anything." by Russ

    - Captures the frustration with the current digital consumption model

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  2. "In the future, you will own nothing and you'll be happy." by Russ

    - Highlights the concerning trend of diminishing personal ownership

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Chapter 4: The Evolution of Country Music

The couple discusses the changing landscape of country music, noting how contemporary artists like Hardy, Shaboozi, and even Beyoncé are blurring genre lines. They argue that modern country music has significantly diverged from its traditional roots, incorporating elements of pop, metal, and rap.

  • Contemporary country music has significantly evolved, incorporating diverse musical styles and influences.
  • Modern country artists are less defined by traditional genre boundaries and more by their storytelling and personal branding.

Key Quotes

  1. "There's no such thing as country music anymore." by Russ

    - Succinctly captures their perspective on the genre's transformation

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  2. "If we go back to the roots of country, Dolly Parton, that's not this." by Lindz

    - Highlights the stark contrast between traditional and modern country music

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Chapter 5: Church, State, and Classroom Controversies

Russ and Lindz discuss Louisiana's recent law mandating the Ten Commandments be displayed in public school classrooms. They critique this decision from a constitutional perspective, emphasizing the importance of separation of church and state and arguing that schools should focus on fundamental education.

  • Public schools should remain neutral ground, focusing on core educational subjects.
  • The separation of church and state is a fundamental principle that protects religious freedom for all.

Key Quotes

  1. "The government isn't supposed to promote or align themselves with any religion." by Russ

    - Clearly articulates the constitutional concern with the Louisiana law

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  2. "We need complete separation of religion and social policy from our government." by Lindz

    - Emphasizes the broader principle of maintaining institutional boundaries

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Note: This transcript was automatically generated using speech recognition technology. While we will make minor corrections on request, transcriptions do not currently go through a full human review process. We apologize for any errors in the automated transcript.

Lindz

The

unfiltered

union

podcast.

Russ

50.

Lindz

You

turned

50.

Russ

50Th

episode.

Lindz

Oh,

gotcha.

I'm

Linds.

Russ

I

would

hope

that

you

know

how

old

I

am.

We've

been

married

for

76

years.

Lindz

And

you're

35.

I

said

I'm

Lin's.

Russ

Oh,

this

is

already

starting

off

very

nice.

I'm

Russ.

Lindz

Thanks.

There

we

go.

Okay.

50th

episode.

Russ

Yeah.

I

can't

believe

it.

Lindz

Does

that

include

when

we

tried

this

back

in

26?

2016?

Russ

Yes.

Lindz

Okay.

Wow.

Russ

Well,

the

thing,

though

is

we

have

a

lot

more.

We

have

a

bunch

that

were

awful.

I'm

not

saying

the

content

was

awful.

No,

the

quality

was

awful

because

we

had

no

idea

what

we

were

doing,

and

we

just

did

it.

Lindz

And

we

didn't

have

a

studio

like

we

have

today.

We

didn't.

Russ

This

ain't

really

a

studio.

Look

at

our

background

decorations.

Lindz

You

did

such

a

good

job.

Russ

Pair

of

headphones.

Lindz

It

looks

so

good.

Russ

Oh,

my

gosh.

Lindz

I

mean,

that's.

That's

a

good

feat.

We've

been

doing

it

for

50

episodes,

like.

Russ

And

this

go

around

has

been

over

a

year

and

three

months,

I

think.

I

think

we

started

in

March

of

last

year.

Lindz

Wow.

I

didn't

realize

it

had

been

that

long.

Russ

So

it's

been

over

a

year.

Lindz

But

we've

had

guests

come

on

this

go

round.

Russ

Yeah.

That's

a

new

thing

for

us,

is

doing

the

guest

thing.

Lindz

Absolutely.

On.

But

I

think

our

core

is

typically

when

we

do

episodes

where

it's

you

and

me,

right.

Russ

We

talk

about,

don't

go

to

hr.

Lindz

I'm

gonna

use

my

hand,

where

you

and

I

talk

about

what's

happening

in

the

world

or

with

our.

With

us.

But

it

always

comes

back

to,

we

can

have

our

own

opinions

and

still

be

married

at

the

end

of

the

day.

Russ

And

I

get

mad.

Lindz

Right?

Russ

Well,

I

mean,

we

do

get

mad.

Lindz

Not

at

each

other,

though.

It's.

Russ

Well,

we

get

over

it.

Lindz

Right.

You

don't

have

to

end

your

marriage

or

end

your

friendship

or

end

your

friendship

online

just

because

you

don't

agree

with

somebody

for

sure.

Russ

I

don't

know

why

you

would.

Lindz

Well,

people

do,

and

they're

crazy.

Russ

I

don't

get

it.

Lindz

Let's

kick

it

off

with

our

kiddo.

Got

her

ears

pierced

this

weekend.

Russ

Super

random.

She

asked

this

week.

We've

been

asking

her

ever

since

she

was

born.

We

asked

her

as

an

infant,

do

you

want

your

ears

pierced?

She

said,

yeah,

you

know,

after

she

shat

herself.

But

no,

we've

been

asking

her

for

a

long

time,

and

she

never

wanted

to

because

she's

Afraid.

Of

course,

that's

scary

to

kids.

Needles.

Lindz

Well,

we

don't

lie

to

her.

Right.

We.

We

show

her

videos

of

other

people

doing

it.

We

explain

the

process.

I

never

want

my

child

to

be

uneducated

about

a

decision

she's

about

to

make.

Russ

Right.

For

sure.

And

she.

She

finally

came

up

to

us

this

week

and

said,

I

want

to

go

get

my

ears

pierced.

And

we're

like,

we'll

take

you

this

weekend.

And

we

went.

And

I

was

going

to

bet

money

that

she

was

going

to

chicken

out

at

the

last

second,

and

she

didn't.

Lindz

It

was

the

sushi

she

went

for.

Russ

Oh,

yeah.

You

can

buy

that

kid

off

with

sushi.

It's

the

weirdest

thing

I've

ever

seen,

but

you

can

definitely

buy

this

kid

office.

Lindz

She's

nine

and

loves

sushi.

Russ

And

we're

not

talking

just

California

roll.

We're

talking

raw

fish

on

top

of

a

chunk

of

rice.

Lindz

Yep.

Tuna

sushi.

Russ

Yeah,

tuna

sushi.

She

loves

tuna.

Raw

tuna

or

salmon.

She's

a

big

salmon

fan.

Yeah.

Lindz

But

we

went

to

the

mall,

and

we

did

the

Claire's

route.

You

know,

hate

us

if

you

want,

but

I

think

for

me,

that's

where

I

got

all

of

my

piercings

done.

I've

never

had

an

issue.

So

that's

the

route

she

wanted

to

go

as

well,

because

she

wanted

to

buy

additional

earrings

while

we

were

there.

Russ

Well.

And

they

were

very

caring

about

how

she

felt.

We

said,

if

you're

gonna

do

it,

you

have

to

do

it

right.

You

have

to

get

both

pierced.

And

they

said,

oh,

don't

worry

about

that,

because

we're

gonna

do

two.

We'll

have

two

people

doing

it.

Which

was

super

nice

because

not

just

her

chickening

out,

but

getting

one

done

and

being

like,

ow,

that

hurt.

Lindz

Done.

Russ

Yeah.

I'm

not

doing

the

other

one.

Which

would

suck.

Lindz

Right?

Russ

Because

she

wants

both.

Well,

they.

They

brought

a

second

person

in,

and

they

did.

They

did

everything

at

once.

Lindz

Yep.

And

it's.

It

went

really

well.

There

was

no

tears.

Russ

She

didn't

even

cry.

Lindz

I

know.

Russ

I

was

stronger

than

me.

Lindz

No,

she.

She

bossed

it,

let's

just

say.

But

while

we

were

there,

we.

Her

thing

is

also

escalators,

but

as

long

as

she

gets

to

ride

a

couple

escalators,

she's

happy

at

the

mall.

Russ

Other

than

Claire's,

the

trip

was

free.

I

mean,

food,

but

you

have

to

eat.

The

trip

was

free.

She

loves

escalators,

and

that's

free.

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

Go

to

Macy's

and

ride

the

escalator

up

and

down,

and

you're

good

to

go.

Lindz

She

was

Happy.

But

what

surprised

me

is

she

and

my

daughter.

She

and

my

daughter.

My

daughter

and

I.

Goodness.

We

go

to

the.

Russ

Okay.

Lindz

We

go

to

the

mall

very

sparingly.

Typically

it's

like

to

return

stuff

like

from

Christmas

or

to

just

get

out

of

the

house

for

a

bit,

ride

the

escalators,

get

sushi.

But

other

than

that,

we

don't

venture

out

to

the

mall

very

often.

And

most

of

the

time

it

has

been

pretty.

Not

empty.

But

there

aren't

many

people

there

today.

It

was

bumping.

Russ

Oh

yeah,

it

was

packed.

That

food

court,

you

had

to

be

lucky

to

find

a

seat.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

Which

was

good.

I

like

seeing

that.

Because

people,

even

though

we're.

The

economy

is

not

really

good.

People

are

still.

I

guess

they're

trying,

you

know,

trying

to

go

out

and

about

and

do

things

with

their

families

because

Expensive

for

sure.

Claire's

cost

us.

What

was

it,

$85

just

for

the

piercing.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

I

mean,

we

did

upgrade

the

earring,

but

we

wanted

to

make

sure

she

got.

What

is

it

called?

Like

gold.

Gold.

Because

it's

anti

allergen

or

whatever.

Lindz

Right.

It's

supposed

to

be

more

for

sensitive

ears.

But

there's

lots

of

debate

as

to

what

Claire's

provides.

But

it

all

came

down

to

her

choice

as

to

where

and

what

to

do

after.

But

ultimately

the

fact

that

the

mall

was

so

packed,

I

feel

like

there

were

a

lot

of

people

there.

And

I

keep

hearing

that

malls

are

dying.

Right.

Like

malls

are

becoming

a

thing

of

the

past.

They

were

big

when

they

first

came

out

in

the

70s,

80s.

And

then

throughout

my

childhood,

I

was

at

the

mall

every

weekend.

Russ

Oh

my

God.

Not

just

your

childhood.

When

we

started

dating

at.

You

were

14.

14,

I

was

15.

We're

at

the

mall

every

week.

I

remember

calling

you

on

Saturdays.

I'll

call

you

right

back.

I'm

at

the

mall.

I'm

like,

how

the

do

you

have

so

much

money?

Lindz

We

didn't.

It

was

just

the

thing

to

do

something

to

do.

Kind

of

like

when

I

take

our

kiddo

out,

it's

you

know,

go,

go

out,

have

lunch

and.

Right.

We

didn't

have

escalators

at

our

mall

in

Virginia.

But

anyways,

so.

So

the

idea

that

malls

are

dying,

I'm

like

that.

That

doesn't

seem

like

that's

proof.

Russ

I

don't.

Yeah.

Today

kind

of

changed

my

mind.

So

what

I

think

about

that

is

maybe

that

high

rent

type

deal

is

dying.

Like,

I

couldn't

imagine

the

rent

at

a

mall,

but

a

store

owner,

maybe

they

just

couldn't

afford.

I

don't

know.

I.

I

keep

spinning

it

around

in

circles

with

this

because

I

feel

like

most

businesses

can't

afford

that

massive

high

mall

rent,

I

would

assume,

especially

in

the

economy

the

way

it

is

right

now.

So

is

that

what

they're

talking

about?

Malls

dying?

Because

the

people

that

own

the

malls

are

like,

I'm

not

making

any

money

anymore

because

people

don't

want

to

pay

this

rent.

Lindz

Well,

I

feel

like

that

kind

of

goes

back

and

forth

with

the

idea

of

COVID

Right.

And

remote

work

that

people

want

still

today.

Want

jobs

of

remote

work.

But

companies

are

like,

we've

spent

billions

of

dollars

on

infrastructure.

You're

bringing

your

asses

back.

Russ

Yeah,

well,

that's

not.

I

don't

know.

That's

not

good.

I

don't

think

that.

I

think

it

should

be

a

choice.

Lindz

Well,

I

agree,

but

I'm

just

saying,

like

when

you

think

of

the

idea

of

infrastructure,

if

a

mall

already

is

built

right.

And

you

essentially

are

renting

out

to

tenants.

So

you're

saying

that

high

rent

is

a

thing

of

the

past?

Russ

I

don't

know.

I'm

just

guessing.

I

don't

know

if

that's

what

they

mean.

Because

what

I

saw

today,

malls

ain't

going

nowhere.

That

place

was

freaking

packed.

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

And

people

were

in

every

single

store

we

walked

by.

Claire's

was

packed.

Lindz

Yeah.

Was

there

a

tax

refund?

Could

it

be

tax

refund?

Russ

No,

I

thought

that.

Lindz

I

don't

even

think

it's

tax

free

weekend.

Like

I'm

trying

to

think.

Russ

I

know

that

because

of

the

hurricane

stuff

down

here

in

Florida.

They

do

like

a

tax

free

month

or

something.

I

thought.

Lindz

But

that's

on

like

generators

and

I

forget

what

else.

No,

no,

but

speaking

of

things

being

expensive,

you

told

me

today

about

Amazon.

Russ

Yeah,

Amazon,

Alexa.

Lindz

Not

in

here.

Russ

Okay,

they

are.

From

what

I

read,

they're

planning

on

charging

something

for

the

next

generation

of

Alexa,

which

is

all

this

generative

AI,

your

chat

GPTs,

your

large

language

model

type

assistance,

not

just

Alexa,

turn

my

lights

off

type.

It's

like

you

can

converse

with

it.

Things

of

that

nature

they're

supposedly

they're

talking

about,

there's

going

to

be

a

price

tag

for

it.

Now,

some

people

have

said

five

bucks

and

some

people

have

said

all

the

way

up

to

10

bucks.

I

feel

like

Amazon

fumbled

so

hard

on

this

generative

AI

stuff.

It

is

mindboggling.

They

have.

I'm

pretty

sure

they're

the

number

one

home

speaker

type

deal.

You

know,

Amazon,

Alexa

type,

shit,

they're

the

number

one

retailer

for

that.

You

have

literally

millions

of

these

units

in

people's

houses.

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

You

should

have

been

the

first

company

out

there

to

release

some

kind

of

generative

AI

on

those

things.

Lindz

Well,

it

sounds

like

they're

still

going

to

be.

Russ

Yeah,

but

they're

late

now.

It's

like

it,

they're

late

and

they're

not

doing

it.

Like

charging

money

for

it

is

nuts.

Lindz

But

if

they're

trying

to

put

a

device

in

your

house,

whole

new

device,

it's

an

Apple

play,

right?

Russ

No,

they're

not

doing

whole.

It's

not

going

to

need

whole

new

devices.

It's

all

server

based.

Oh,

all

your

devices

that

you

have.

That's

what

I'm

saying.

Everybody

that

has

an

Alexa,

I'm

pretty

sure

has

the

capability

of

this

new

large

language

model.

Lindz

So

you're

like

upgrading

your

software

on

your

existing

Echo.

Russ

It

sends

all

your

queries

to

the

cloud.

Yeah,

it

sends

all

your

queries

to

the

cloud.

So

it

can

work

on

essentially

anything.

So

the,

the

fact

that

they

are.

Lindz

So

it's

essentially

software

as

a

service,

Right.

That

you

can

put

on

any

device.

Russ

Well,

you

can

put.

It's,

it's

going

to

be

a

pay

for

upgrade

for

your

existing

Alexa

devices.

Lindz

Okay.

So

I

guess

I

don't

understand

what

the

benefit

would

be.

Russ

Well,

you

could

ask

it

a

lot

of

different

things

and

converse

with

it.

Like

say,

hey,

my

wife's

birthday's

tomorrow.

Give

me

10

good

ideas

for

a

birthday

party

that

are

sounds

like

you've

done

this.

That

are

local

to

blah

blah

blah

and

it

will

spit

it

out.

It's

smart.

It's

a

really

good

freaking

idea.

But

why

aren't

they?

They

should

be

moving

a

lot

faster

than

they

are.

Everybody

else

is.

Lindz

When

I

think

of

the

AI

ChatGPT,

those

type

things

like,

those

are

more

for

what

I

want

to

say.

Like

when

you

ask

Alexa

a

question,

I

don't

want

to

make

it

go

off

in

our

house.

If

you

ask

it

a

question,

then

your

response

that

you

get

back,

it's

already

searching

the

web.

Right,

Right.

So

to

me,

the

ChatGPT

becomes

more

about

like

deep

dive

prompts,

I

guess.

So

if

you're

doing

a

research

paper,

like

it

can

help

you

with

the

research

paper.

If

you're

doing

just

how

do

you

fix

an

Excel

formula?

I've

done

that.

Russ

Smart

way

to

do

it

though.

Lindz

Well,

I

know,

but

like

putting

that

on

your

Echo

dot,

we'll

call

them

in

your

house,

which

is

an

Amazon

product.

What

benefit

do

you

have

of

that

versus

what

it

already

does?

Russ

Well,

I

think

part

of

it

is

like

what

I

said.

You

could

ask

questions

like

that.

You

could

say,

hey,

give

me

seven

different

action

movies

or

something.

Like

that

from

different

eras

that

I

can

add

to

my

playlist.

Anything,

really.

It'll

integrate

with

the,

you

know,

your

music

software,

make

a

playlist

for

Tay

Taylor.

Lindz

I

am

starting

to

feel

like

such

an

old

person.

Russ

Yeah.

Lindz

I'm

not

even

kidding.

Like,

how

are

you

gonna

use

that

technology?

Like,

that's

how

I

feel.

Russ

Yeah.

But

it's,

it's

got

a

lot.

I

don't

even,

I

don't

even

know

how

much,

like,

what

else

the

Alexa

can

do

and,

you

know,

the

next

gen

Alexa

can

do

inside

of

your

house.

But

it's

mostly,

I

would

assume

it's

mostly

things

that

you

can

already

do

with

Google

search

and

things

like

that.

But

it,

Instead

of

typing,

you

just

talk.

You

converse

in

natural

language.

Instead

of,

you

know,

going

to

Google

and

say,

find

me

five

things

to.

Lindz

Do

tonight

in

Tampa,

I

guess

I

just,

I'm

old.

We're

in

our.

We

said

it

at

the

beginning.

Right.

We're

in

our

mid-30s,

and

I

just

feel

like

we're

getting

so

old

with

how

all

this

technology

is

being

used

and

implemented

and

trying

to,

you

know,

it's

all

about

smart

homes.

A

few

years

ago.

Right.

So

the,

the

echo

dots

were

a

thing.

Russ

That's,

that's

why

I

think

they're

fumbling

hard.

Because

they,

they

were

pre.

They

were

like

your

smart

home

hub,

and

now

they're

trying

to

move

it

into

this

generative

AI

stuff.

And

it's

like,

you

should

have

done

that

a

year

ago,

maybe.

Lindz

Probably

true.

But

I

don't

know.

I

just.

What,

what

difference?

It

doesn't

feel

like

a

difference

that.

From

what

it

does

now.

Russ

It's

smarter.

Lindz

It's

fine.

Russ

Instead

of,

instead

of.

Because,

you

know,

half

the

time

you

say,

alexa,

tell

me

who,

who

was

born

last

month.

You

know

what

famous

people

were

born

last

month.

Half

the

time

it's

like

dir.

Lindz

Well,

it's

a

contributor.

Russ

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

Gave

this

response,

but

now

it's

like

real

time

searching

the

web,

pulling

in

data.

It's,

it's,

it's

really

cool.

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

But

I

personally

would

not

pay

10

bucks

or

even

5

bucks

a

month

for

that.

I'm

not

doing

it.

I

use

my

phone.

Lindz

Yeah.

At

this

point.

Because

I

guess

that's

your

point.

Right.

They've

missed

the

mark.

Russ

Yeah.

Lindz

And

you

just

will

use

your

phone.

Russ

Right.

Lindz

Because

it's

readily

available.

Russ

Exactly.

My.

Everybody's

got

a

phone.

Most

people

have.

And

look,

Apple's

doing

Apple

Intelligence,

which

cracks

me

up

so

bad.

Lindz

I

just,

again,

I

just

feel

so.

Russ

Yeah,

it's

just,

that's

the

thing

now

it's

a

AI

arms

race

and

we'll

all.

Lindz

Yeah,

but

they're

the

only

ones

charging

for

it

so

far.

Russ

Amazon?

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

No,

they're

all

char.

Well,

Apple's

not

going

to

charge

for

it.

Google

charges

for

Gemini

Advanced

and

Chat

GPT

has

Chat

GPT

plus

Plan

is.

Lindz

Copilot

built

into

Microsoft?

Russ

It

is,

but

you

have

to

pay

for

it.

Like

if

you

have

Microsoft

Copilot

for

your

business.

I

think

it's

an

extra

cost

per

user.

I

think

it's

actually

pretty

expensive

too.

It's

like

30

bucks

a

month

per

user.

Lindz

Geez.

Russ

I

think.

Lindz

Well,

guess

what

else

is

going

up

in

price?

Russ

Life.

Lindz

That's

a

good

answer.

Spotify.

Russ

Yeah.

That's

bullshit,

man.

I'm

about

sick

of

them.

Lindz

We

use

Spotify

a

lot.

Russ

I

love

it.

Lindz

Even

our

kiddo

has

it.

She's

got

the

Spotify

kids

version.

I

mean,

we

have

it

for

our.

Russ

Family

and

we

have

a

family

plan.

Lindz

Right.

And

it's

got.

I

love

it

because

it

has

all

of

our,

like,

songs

ever.

Right?

Ever.

Russ

That's

the

issue.

Lindz

And

I.

Well,

I

can't

imagine

not

having

that.

Russ

So

I

have

found

services

that

will

transfer

your

playlist

and

your,

like,

songs

to

another

service.

Lindz

So

one

thing

you

need

to

know

about

Russ.

Technology

is

his

thing,

right?

You're

all

about

technology

and

you

love

finding

the

new

best

thing.

Russ

Be

nerd.

Lindz

Yeah,

but

when

we

switch

profiles

over

and

over

again.

I've

lost

things

in

the

past.

Russ

It's

not

my

fault.

Lindz

No,

I'm

not

saying

it

is.

I'm

not

saying

it's

your

fault.

I'm

saying

that

I've

lost

things.

I

don't

want

to

lose

my,

like,

songs.

Russ

I

know.

That's

why

we

do

the

services

that

allow

the

transfer.

I've

done

it

with

Apple

Music

before.

Lindz

Or

we

just

bite

the

bullet

and

we

keep

Spotify.

Russ

I.

I

want

to

switch

out

of

principle

right

now.

Lindz

I

understand.

Russ

Because

it's

a

constant.

It's.

It

hasn't

stayed

the

same

price.

It

seems

like

they

increase

it

once

a

year

now.

I

don't.

Lindz

I

feel

like

everybody's

doing

that,

though.

Yeah,

but

not

only

Spotify,

Netflix

is

doing

it.

You've

got

Amazon

Prime.

You've

got

like,

all

of

these

subscription

services

are

just

going

up.

I

don't

understand

why.

It's

like,

are

you

not

meeting

your.

Your

subscriber

count?

I

don't

know,

but

I

can't

imagine

that's

true.

Russ

And,

and,

but

they

wonder

why

people

are

cutting

the

cord

and

not

having

cable

tv.

It's

like

that

stuff

is

so

freaking

expensive

and

we

are

being

subscription

to

death.

Lindz

Right?

Russ

Everything's

a

subscription

anymore.

Lindz

Yep.

It's

like

rent.

Russ

You

can't.

If

you.

If

you

cancel

Spotify,

boom,

your

music

library

is

gone.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

That's

crap.

You

own

nothing.

Lindz

I.

I

would

be

very

sad.

I

would

probably

slip.

Deep

dark

depression.

No,

I'm

just

kidding.

Russ

It's

just

weird

though,

that

that's

how

everything

is

now.

Even

gaming.

Lindz

Right?

Russ

Like

that.

Lindz

Yeah,

you

said

that

before.

You

don't

own

games

anymore.

Russ

You

don't

own

games.

There

was

a

game

that

just.

I

can't

remember

it

came

out

a

couple

years

ago

or

whatever,

but

they

just

closed

down

the

servers.

It's

like,

okay,

then

let

me

play

it.

Single

player.

No,

it

requires

an

online

connection

to

the

server

to

play.

So

you

can't

even

play

that

game

anymore.

At

all.

Even

if

you

want

to

just

play

it

by

yourself,

you

cannot

play

it

even

though

you

bought

it.

Lindz

That's

sad.

Russ

It's

a

bunch

of

crap.

I

remember

going

to

the

freaking

store,

buying

a

disc,

sticking

it

in

the

console,

and

I

could

play

that

thing

whenever

I

wanted.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

Unplug

the

Internet

from

it

and

I

can

still

play

it.

Not

anymore.

Lindz

Sad.

Russ

I

don't

like

it.

Kind

of

freaky

to

me.

Lindz

You

don't

own

anything

anymore.

Russ

You

own

nothing.

I

think

the

World.

Wef.

What

is

it?

Lindz

World

Environmental

Federation,

something

like

that?

Water

Environmental

Federation.

Russ

No,

I

think

it's

World.

Lindz

Okay,

regardless.

Russ

Anyway,

Wef.

I

think

they

said

something

like

that.

They

had

a

quote

on

their

website.

In

the

future,

you

will

own

nothing

and

you'll

be

happy.

Lindz

That's

a

very

philosophical

thing

to

say.

Because

if

you

think

about

it,

it

means.

Does

it

mean

less

responsibility

or

more

responsibility?

Who

has

the

responsibility?

There's

a

lot

to

unpack

there.

Russ

You

own

nothing.

That's

not

good,

but.

Lindz

I

know,

but

is

it

a

shifting

of

responsibility?

Is

it,

I

have

responsibility

or

no

more

responsibility

because

I

don't

own

it?

It's

like

the

idea

of

who

is

responsible.

Where

does

that

go?

Russ

No,

it

means

if

you

stop

paying

your

car.

Lindz

I

understand

fundamentally

what

it

means.

Messed

up,

but

philosophically.

Russ

But

then

again,

as

of

right

now,

you

technically

don't

really

own

anything,

even

if

you

pay

your

freaking

house

off.

Lindz

Are

you.

I

mean,

depending

on

what

state

you

live

in.

But

if

you

pay

your

car

off,

you

still

pay

taxes,

right?

Russ

Why?

Lindz

Lord

knows.

Russ

It's.

It's

not

right.

Lindz

Back

to

Spotify.

So,

yeah,

all

the

services

are

doing

it.

I

personally

can't

imagine

not

having

my

liked

songs.

I

understand

their

services,

but

I

can't

imagine

not

having

Spotify.

Russ

Well,

I

like

Spotify's

interface

a

lot

and

that's

my

biggest

issue

is

I've

tried

Apple

Music,

wasn't

much

of

a

fan

of

their

interface,

but

it's

something

I

can

work

through.

Lindz

Can

you?

Russ

And

YouTube

music

is

actually.

They've

got

a

family

plan

and

it

actually

includes

ad

free

YouTube.

So

I

was

thinking,

you

know,

if

I

have

to

pay

that,

it's

going

to

be

like

21

bucks

a

month

for

us,

I

think

because

of

taxes.

Why

not

just

pay

an

extra

dollar

and

have

YouTube

ad

free

included?

Because

we

watch

a

lot

of

YouTube.

Lindz

We

will

talk

about

the

budgetary

standpoint

of

that.

Maybe

off

camera,

but

no,

it's

not

a

fight.

It's

not

a

fight.

Spotify

is

probably

gonna

be

the

same

cost

as

what

you're

just

talking

about.

So

you're

talking

about

on

principle

again?

Russ

I'm

talking

about

on

principle.

And

you

get

more

bang

for

your

buck

with

YouTube

music.

Ad

free

YouTube

is

the

shit.

Lindz

Fair.

I

want

to

shift

gears.

Not

totally,

but

a

little

bit

here.

The

idea

of

music,

right.

You

and

I

have

talked

about

this

a

lot.

We

enjoy

music

in

general.

Like

if

you

look

at

our

liked

songs,

we

do

it

every

year.

Right.

One

of

our

podcasts

is.

Let's

go

through

our.

What

do

they

call

it?

The

Wrap

up.

Russ

Yeah,

Spotify

Wrap

Up.

Which

we

won't

get

anymore

because

we're

canceling

it.

Lindz

Stop

it.

So

we

do

the

Wrap

up

every

year

and

our

playlists

are

pretty

diverse.

I

mean,

yours

leans

a

little

heavy

on

our

nine

year

old

because

she

does

use

yours

to

play

music

throughout

the

house.

It's

just

what

it's

tied

to.

But

anyways,

mine

is

very

diverse,

wouldn't

you

say?

Russ

Yeah,

you're

weird.

Lindz

I

like

it

all.

I'm

talking

classical

music,

jazz

all

the

way

through.

Country,

rock,

rap,

spoons.

I

do

like

folk.

Russ

But

Charlie

Marks

is

good.

Lindz

He

really

is.

So

when

we

think

about

country

music,

you

and

I

have

talked

about

this

a

lot,

but

I

know

exactly

who.

Russ

You'Re

going

to

talk

about

too.

Lindz

No,

it

doesn't

have

to

be

just

that

one

individual

artist.

I

want

to

talk

about

it

as

a

broadcast

landscape.

Country

music

to

me

is

having

an

identity

crisis.

Russ

Country.

There's

no

such

thing

as

country

music

anymore,

right.

Lindz

I

feel

like

we

have

very

small

subcategories

of

country

music

now

and

there's

not

one

true

sound

of

country

music

anymore.

Maybe

that's

not

a

bad

thing.

But

when

I

hear

songs.

Russ

By

who?

Lindz

By

Hardy,

which

is

your

new

favorite

artist

right

now.

Even

our

kiddo

likes

Hardy.

Russ

Yeah,

yeah.

Lindz

But

when

you

hear

songs

by

Hardy

or

when

I

do,

I

don't

automatically

think

country.

Russ

I

never

think

country.

Okay.

There's

a

couple

that

may

sound.

But

they.

They

even

don't

sound

country.

It's

like

more

of

that

poppy.

Lindz

And

he

talks

about

redneck

life.

He

talks

about,

you

know,

country

living.

Russ

But

it's

not

country.

Lindz

The

actual

sounds

are

not

country.

There

is

no,

like,

regular

guitar.

It

is

an

electric

guitar.

Russ

And

it's

metal,

right?

Lindz

It

is

metal.

Russ

He

growls.

Lindz

Yeah.

Like,

there.

Is

there

double

bass.

Because

I

feel

like

there

should

be.

Russ

I

think

there

is

in

some

of

his

stuff.

Lindz

Right.

So

to

me,

that's

not

country

is

more.

If

we're

going

to

call

him

country,

he's

country

rock

or

country

metal.

Russ

I

saw

somebody

call

him

Tennessee

New

metal.

Lindz

Okay.

Russ

I

can

see

new

Nashville

new

metal.

Lindz

Okay.

Russ

Is

what

they

said.

I

guess.

I

don't

know.

Lindz

He's

not

the

only

one,

though.

He's

not

the

only

one

in

country.

Russ

Brian

isn't

country.

Lindz

He

is

pop,

right?

Russ

Yeah.

Lindz

And

you

have.

Shaboozy

is

a

new

one.

Russ

Just

because

you

sing

about

country

stuff

doesn't

make

you

country.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

Like

hunting

and

fishing

and

loving

every

day.

That's

not

country.

Lindz

And

I'm

not

taking

away

from

the

fact

that

he

is

from

the

south,

he's

from

Georgia.

Like,

he

is

a

country

boy.

Okay,

fine.

But

your

music,

like,

if

we

go

back

to

the

roots

of

country.

Dolly

Parton.

Russ

Yeah.

Lindz

You've

got

all

the

other

names

are

blanking

on

me

right

now.

But

you've

got

people

from

that

generation

where

country

really

came

from,

right?

Russ

Yep.

Lindz

That's

not

this.

And

that's.

Okay.

Russ

Can

you

call

someone,

like,

what

if

Eminem

started

rapping

about

living

in

the

South?

Lindz

That's

not

Detroit.

Russ

I'm

just

saying.

I'm

just

saying.

But

that's.

That's

kind

of

what's

happening,

though,

right?

Lindz

And

like,

Shaboozi

is

another

example.

Shaboozi

is

country

pop.

Right.

Like

all

of

his

music,

he

sure

is

talking

about

things

in

country

life,

but

the

sound,

right.

Is

pop.

Russ

How

is

he

talking

about

country

life?

He

lives

in

Wood

or

he's

from

Woodbridge.

Lindz

Well,

I

mean,

we're

from

Virginia,

and

I'm

not

country.

Well,

a

lot

of

people

say

that

Virginia

is

the

country.

I'm

like,

which

part?

Russ

Yeah.

Not.

Not

D.C.

area.

Lindz

No.

Which

Woodbridge

is

in.

But

to

the.

And

the

last

one

that

I'll

bring

up

is

Chuck

Morris.

This

is

a.

This

is

a

new

name

to

me.

He

was

on

my

Spotify

radio

list

of

new

artists.

To

listen

to.

Russ

You

almost

said

Chuck

Norris

Morris,

but.

Lindz

He

was

actually

rapping

in

a

country

song.

Russ

Okay.

Lindz

And

I'm

like,

again,

fine.

Country

rap,

maybe.

But

if

we

go

back

to

the

roots

of

what

country

was

and

is,

then

you

would

see

that

it's

not

this.

Russ

I

just

don't.

I

don't.

Country

isn't.

There's

no

such

thing

as

country

anymore.

Lindz

That's

what

it

feels

like,

honestly.

And

a.

That's

kind

of

sad.

Russ

Didn't

Beyonce

just

do

a

country

album?

Lindz

Well,

again,

she's.

She

is

from

Texas.

She.

She

is

from.

I

think

it's

Houston.

And

she

has

a

background

that

I

believe

many

would

say

is

a

country

background.

So,

sure

that

that's

who

you.

You

know,

if

that's

who

you

are.

But

the

sound

of

the

song,

which

is

Texas

hold'em,

I

think

is

the

song.

But

anyways,

I've

said

it

many

times.

I'm

not

a

huge

fan

anyways.

But

she.

That

song

has

more

of

a

pop

sound.

Russ

That's

all

of

it.

Lindz

And

that's.

Okay.

So

it's

country

pop.

Russ

Yeah.

Lindz

So

I

don't

think

what

country

music

was.

Exists

anymore.

Russ

It

doesn't.

Lindz

And

that's

kind

of

sad.

Russ

Yeah,

I

agree.

But

I

still

like

Hardy.

Lindz

I

mean,

I

love

Shaboozi.

I

like

the

Chuck

Morris

song.

I

like

all

the

Hardy

songs

that

you've

been

listening

to.

Russ

Do

you

like

the

Beyonce

song?

Lindz

I

do.

It's

catchy.

Russ

Do

you

like

it?

Lindz

I

do.

It's

catchy.

Russ

I

haven't

even

listened

to

it,

and

I

don't

plan

on

it.

Lindz

Not

your

genre.

I

get

it.

But

it's.

It

is

a

very

catchy

song.

A

lot

of

her

music

is

catchy.

Russ

Well,

no,

that's

not

true.

I

do

listen

to

country

now

because

I

like

Hardy.

Lindz

Get

out.

Just

leave.

Russ

It

doesn't

make

sense.

It's

so

weird.

Lindz

But

to

double

down

on

country

here,

let's

stick

with

the

south,

right?

So

I've

been

watching

on

Netflix

the

new

season

of

Dallas

Cowboys

Cheerleaders.

It's

an

awesome

show.

I

love

that

show.

I

watched

it

back

when

it

was

on

cmt.

I.

I

have

a

dance

background.

I

used

to

dance,

so

I

love

it.

I

like

watching

the

auditions

and.

Oh,

I

like

watching

the

auditions.

I

like

seeing

them

perform.

I.

I

really

enjoy

that

show.

And

one

of

the

things

they

said

on

the

show

really

just

caught

my

interest,

though.

They,

as

in

the

Dallas

Cowboy

Cheerleaders.

I'm

just

gonna

say

specific

to

them

because

it

was

on

that

show.

We're

saying

that

they

have

a

very

low

Salary.

Meaning

they

get

paid.

Meaning

they

get

paid

as

much

as

a

Chick

Fil.

A

worker.

So

I'm

assuming

that

means

minimum

wage.

Right.

I

don't

see

how

they

can

expect

more.

So

the

way

it

was

explained

in

the

show

is

they

are

their

own

business

unit.

They

bring

in

their

own

funds,

their

own

money.

Because

they

sell

Barbies,

they

sell

calendars,

they

sell

uniforms,

go

to

events.

Right.

They

go

to

events,

make

appearances,

they

get

paid.

So

that

makes

sense.

Right?

Their

own

business

unit.

But

I

can't

imagine

that

business

unit

making

so

much

money

that

they

could

afford

to

pay

these

dancers

more

than

that.

Russ

I

don't

either.

They.

They

don't

exist

without

football.

Lindz

True.

Russ

And

I

know,

okay,

there.

There

may

be

some

people

that

go

to

the

football

game

to

watch

them.

That's

fine.

But

people.

Most

people

at

a

football

game

are

there

to

watch

football.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

And

that's.

Lindz

They

are

part

of

the

experience.

Russ

Right.

Lindz

For

sure.

Russ

But

that's

why

the

football

players

make

millions

and

they

don't.

They're

a

sideshow.

I'm

not

just.

I'm

not

insulting

any

of

them.

They

have

skills.

Lindz

Right.

If

you

go

to

a

concert,

there

is

the

main

event.

Russ

Right.

Lindz

And

there

are

opening

acts.

Russ

Right.

They're

an

opening

act.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

It's

the

same

with

the

WNBA

and

all

that

stuff.

It's

like

if

you

want

more

money,

you

need

to

go

out

there

and

get

more

people

to

show

up.

Lindz

To

show

up

to

pay

for

your

stuff.

Right?

Russ

Yeah.

All

that.

You.

You

need

more.

More

people

to

show

up

to

your

games.

Because

I

don't

know

what's

the

Dallas

guy?

I

think

it

was

like

39,

000

people

can

fit

in

the

Cowboys

stadium

or

something

like

that.

Lindz

Yeah,

more

than

that.

Because

they

can

fit.

They

said

it

on

the

show.

They

could

fit

five

Astrodomes

inside

of

the

Dallas

Cowboys

stadium.

Russ

Okay.

So

I

don't

know.

I

don't

know

what

the

number

is,

but

it's

huge.

I'm

just

saying

you've

got

X

amount

of

people

that

go

there

to

see

the

football

players

buying

tickets,

buying

merch,

buying

food.

But

then

when

you

swap

it

over

in

obviously

different

arenas,

but

if

you

swap

it

over

to

the

wnba,

they're

not

filling

stands.

They're

just

not.

Lindz

Right.

And

when

it's

not

as

popular

as

the

NBA,

it's

not.

Russ

So

people

complaining

about

a

business

that

isn't

paying

them

more

doesn't

make

sense

to

me.

It's

still

a

business.

Lindz

Yep.

Still

has

to

make

profit.

Russ

Yeah.

Lindz

At

the

end

of

the

day,

a.

Russ

Football

team

is

a

business.

A

basketball

team

Is

a

business,

how

can

I

pay

you

more

than

what

we're

making?

Lindz

Right.

Russ

It

makes

no

sense.

Lindz

Yep.

No,

I

agree.

I.

In

the

amount

of

work

that

they

do

out

in

their

community,

like

the

outreach

that

they're

doing,

like,

they

do

a

lot,

it

seems,

for

their

Dallas

community,

and

I'm

not

trying

to

negate

that,

but

when

you

look

at

their

business

unit,

how

much

they

bring

in

their

net

revenue,

Right.

And

then

they

have

to

subtract

all

of

their

liabilities,

which

is

payroll,

I'm

sure

that

is

actually

probably

taking

up

a

good

chunk

of

the

revenue.

And

then

whatever's

left

is

profit.

Russ

Are

they

self

sufficient?

Lindz

Yes.

Russ

I

see.

That's

cool.

Lindz

Yeah,

they

are

self

sufficient.

But

to

your

point,

they

are

the

opening

act.

They

are

part

of

the

show,

Right.

They

are

not

the

main

event.

Russ

Yeah.

I

mean,

if

they

want

to

make

more

money,

they

should

go

out

and

do

events

by

themselves.

Lindz

Well,

like

think

of

the

Rockettes,

right?

Do

a

whole

show,

right?

Russ

Go

do

parades,

go

do

sell.

Lindz

How

much

the

Rockettes

get

paid?

Russ

I

don't

know.

I

don't

know.

I'm

just

saying

though,

to

make

more

money,

you

have

to

do

more

events,

not

eight

games

a

year.

Lindz

Yep.

Well.

And

one

of

the

things

they

also

brought

up

in

the

show

is

the

Dallas

Cowboy

cheerleaders

have

to

be

in

the

community.

Right.

They

have

to

be

presenting

themselves

in

a

way

that

they're

America's

sweethearts

and

they

all

seem

to

do

that

really

well.

However,

there's

a

lot

of

control

there

by

the

Dallas

Cowboys

brand,

if

you

will,

as

to

what

they're

involved

in.

Right.

Rightfully

so.

Russ

Yeah.

I

mean,

they're

Dallas

Cowboy

cheerleaders.

Lindz

Right.

They

can't

fraternize

or

date

any

of

the

football

players.

Right.

That's

one

of

the

rules.

Well,

I

also

have

a

personal

friend,

real

life.

Real

life

scenario

situation,

who

posted

something

on

her

social

media

that

she

did

amazing

with

the

writing.

Right.

It

was

very

professionally

written.

It

was

on

her

specific

page.

And

the

company

that

she

worked

for

did

not

agree

with

it.

Took

offense

to

it.

So

the

idea

that

a

company

that

you

work

for,

organization

you

work

for,

can

control

those

things

or

have

a

say

in

it

even.

Russ

Right.

Lindz

Seems

like

a

lot.

Russ

Yeah,

it

doesn't

make

a

lot

of

sense

to

me.

Lindz

A

little

overstepping

there,

but

I

mean.

Russ

Especially

if

you're

in.

You're

not

really

in

a

public

facing

position.

Lindz

Well,

that's

my

question

to

you.

Do

you

think

companies

should

be

able

to

have

an

opinion

on

what

you

post

on

social

media

or

what

you're

involved

in?

Who

you

date.

Oh,

I

stumped

him.

Russ

I

don't

know.

I'm

trying

to

think

because

I

can

see

it

going

both

ways.

It's

the

job

dependent.

If

you

are

a

public

facing

person,

like

you're

the

mayor

of

something

and

you

know

you

got

busted

dating

your

assistant

or

something

like

that,

you're

probably

going

to

get

in.

Lindz

Maybe.

Unless

you're

on

Both

Unmarried

and

it's

a.

Russ

Okay,

say

it's

a.

Lindz

Say

it's

a

extramarital

situation.

Russ

Yeah.

Say

it's

something

that's.

It's

frowned

upon

in

this

establishment.

You're

going

to

get

in

trouble.

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

But

I

don't

know.

I

don't,

I

don't.

It's

strange

to

me.

I

don't

own

a

business.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

But

I

could

also

see

where

if

I

did

own

a

business

and

somebody

was

out

there

and

they

were

clearly

associated

with

my

business

being

a.

I

don't

know.

I

don't

know.

I

just

feel

like

I'd.

I'd

probably

can

them.

Well,

and

that's

my

right

as

a

business

owner.

Lindz

True.

Russ

And

that's

your.

Okay.

It's

your

right

to

post

what

you

want,

but

it's

also

my

right

to

not

like

what

you

post

and

ask

you

to

take

it

down.

And

if

you

don't

like

it,

then

I

could

let

you

go

or

vice.

Lindz

Versa,

you

can

leave.

Right.

Russ

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

Lindz

Everyone

has

choices

in

the

situation.

No

matter,

I

guess,

in

the

specific

situation

and

scenario

with

my

friend,

like

what

she

posted

about

to

me,

it

had

no

harm,

no

foul

on

anything

that

had

to

do

with

where

she

was

working,

so.

Russ

Sounds

more

like

an

excuse.

Lindz

Agreed.

It

sounds

like

they

were

looking

to

some

looking

for

something

to

complain

about

with

her

and

they

found

something

and.

But

she,

she

did

what

she

felt

was

best

in

that

situation.

She

took

down

her

post

and

left

it

at

that,

you

know,

moved

on

essentially

for

sure.

But

ultimately

that

damages

the

relationship.

Unless.

Russ

Yeah.

And

that's

when

you

go.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

Because

it's

like,

all

right,

you

guys

are

gonna

like

stick

your

nose

in

all

my

business.

Lindz

Right?

Russ

I'm

not

here.

I'm

not

working

right

now.

Then

it's

your

choice

to

leave.

Lindz

Well,

on

top

of

that,

it's

almost

like

it

was

one

of

her

values.

I'm

just

going

to

say

it.

It

was

about

Pride

Month.

She

posted

something

about

Pride

Month

and

the

company

didn't

agree

with

it

and

essentially

said

that

she

shouldn't

be

voicing

those

things

on

social

media

and

see

what.

Right.

That's

none

of

your

business.

Russ

No.

And

that

has

nothing

to

do

with

any.

Anything

like,

that's

not

disparaging

to

anybody.

Lindz

Right.

That

has

nothing

to

do

with

anything.

Russ

Yeah,

see,

that's

different.

What

I'm

thinking,

I'm

thinking

like,

dude,

you're

going

out

in

public

and

you're

bashing

the

company.

Lindz

No.

Russ

Yeah.

You're

vandalizing.

Lindz

Nothing

to

do

with

the

company,

but

it's

like

an

alignment

of

values.

Wasn't

there.

So

for

her,

she.

She

left

eventually.

But

when

she

posted

that,

they

asked

her

to

take

it

down.

And

I

think

right

there

is

what

breaks

the

relationship.

Like,

we

do

not

have

aligned

values.

Russ

No.

Lindz

So

I

cannot

be

here.

Russ

See,

and

that's

the.

That.

That's

the

beauty

of

the

free

market,

though,

is

you

can

take

yourself

elsewhere.

Now,

that's

easier

said

than

done,

for

sure.

But

try

to

find

something

else,

because

that's

messed

up.

Things

like

that

shouldn't.

You

should

not

be

judged

about

posts

like

that.

Lindz

Right

now.

Russ

People

are

going

to

disagree

with

you.

Everybody

disagrees

about

something.

But

to

get

reprimanded

about

Pride

Month,

really?

Lindz

Right.

Russ

That's

a

little

weird.

Lindz

Yeah,

it's

a

little

much.

Russ

It's

like,

that

is

truly

none

of

your

business.

Like,

what?

Would

they

have

said

anything

if

she.

Lindz

Said,

happy

fourth

of

July?

Russ

No,

I'm

happy.

I'm

straight.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

Would

they

have

said

anything?

Well,

probably

not.

Lindz

I

mean,

she.

She

is

an

ally

to

that

community.

Not

that

she's,

you

know,

in

one

of

the

represented.

Russ

Right,

I

understand.

Lindz

Yeah.

Russ

But

my

point

is.

My

point

is,

though,

is.

Would

they

have

jumped

her

shit

for

saying

the

opposite?

Lindz

Right.

Russ

I

feel

like

they

wouldn't

have

said

anything.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

And

that's

strange.

It's

like,

dude,

okay,

if

you

don't

want

to

see

what

I'm

posting,

then

don't

read

it.

Especially

things

like

that.

Lindz

And

if

it's

not

about

your

company.

Russ

Right.

But

like

I

said,

unfortunately,

or

fortunately,

it

can

go

both

ways,

depending

on

the

situation,

they

have

the

right

to

remove

her,

because

that's

sad.

It's

a

free

country.

And

it's

a

free

country

for

them,

too.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

The

owners

of

that

company

can

say,

you

know,

I

don't

like

that.

Lindz

When

it

becomes

a

values

thing,

though.

Like,

it's

not

even

just

talking

the

company.

It's

a

values

thing.

And

our

company,

the

company

and

she

did

not

align.

Like,

you

made

that

very

clear.

Russ

It's

time

for

me

to

go.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

Clearly

it's

time

for

me

to

go.

That's

messed

up,

though.

I

don't

like

that.

And

I

don't.

I.

It's

messed

up

because

you.

If

you

think

about

it,

there's

no

real

good

way

to

solve

these

kind

of

problems.

Lindz

Nope.

Russ

Because

if

you

say,

well,

companies

shouldn't

be

able

to

fire

you

for

that.

Well,

then

that

snowballs

into

this

huge

cluster.

It's

like,

well,

you're

taking

away

the

freedom

of

the

owner

of

the

company

or

you're

taking

the

freedom

away

from

your

friend.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

She's

not

allowed

to

do

free

speech.

And

it's

like,

well,

yeah,

she

is,

but

that

doesn't

mean

me

as

the

owner

of

the

company,

have

to

agree.

Lindz

And

I'm

unfortunately.

Russ

Unfortunately.

Lindz

And

for

that

specific

scenario.

Russ

Right.

And

I'm

not

either

side.

I'm

not.

I

understand

disclosing

either

side

or,

or

whatever,

but

it's.

It's

kind

of

the

slippery

slope.

It

is

a

very

slippery

slope.

And

a

segue

from

slippery

slope.

Lindz

I

don't

know

if

I

like

segue

from

slippery

slope.

Russ

Louisiana

just

passed

a

law

to

post

the.

Lindz

Whoa.

That

has

nothing

to

do

with

the

slippery.

Russ

Yes,

it

does.

Okay,

now

let

me

get

there.

Louisiana

just

passed

a

law

to

post

the

Ten

Commandments

in

all

school

classrooms.

Lindz

Was

this

voted

on

by

the

people?

Russ

I

don't

know.

Lindz

Good

talk.

Russ

They.

But

I'm

just

saying

they

just

passed

the

law,

so

they're

going

to.

They

are

going

to

post

the

Ten

Commandments

in

classrooms.

What

do

you

think

about

this?

Lindz

So,

first

initial

thought,

was

it

voted

on

by

the

people?

If

it

was

voted

on

by

the

people,

to

me,

that

is

what

a

majority

of

people

have

voted

for.

Have

voice.

Voiced.

Voice.

Voice

that

they

want.

So

it

should

move

forward.

Caveat

to

that,

though,

is

if

individuals

who

are

not

of

that

faith

are.

Don't

believe

this

should

continue,

they

have

the

right

to

challenge

it.

You

can

take

it

to

the

Louisiana

Supreme

Court.

Russ

Or

do

you

say,

I

want

my

religious

text

posted

on

the

walls

in

all

schools?

Lindz

They

could

very

well

do

that,

too.

Russ

My

issue,

it's

a

First

Amendment

issue.

The

government

isn't

supposed

to

promote

or

align

themselves

with

any

religion.

Lindz

Freedom

of

religion.

Yep.

All

religions

are

free.

Russ

Right.

So

they're

doing.

They're

aligning

themselves.

That's.

That

is

a

government

agency

or

a

state

government

aligning

themselves

with

a

religion.

I'm

a

Christian,

and

I

think

this

is.

Lindz

I,

I'm

not

going

to

disagree.

My

caveat

here

is

if

the

people.

Russ

Voted

on

it,

the

First

Amendment

is

very

clear

that

the

government

shall

not.

Lindz

I

understand.

But

if

the

people

voted

on

it

and

that's

what

they

want,

and

that's

what

lawmakers

in

that

state

said.

Okay.

People

said,

yes,

we're

going

to

pass

the

law,

then

our

Judicial

system

needs

to

get

involved

and

say

whether

or

not

it's

constitutional.

That

is

a

constitutional

government.

Russ

Yeah.

And

it's

not,

in

my

opinion.

It

is

not

constitutional

because

your

state

government

is

aligning

itself

with

the

religion.

Lindz

And

I

don't

go

to

Louisiana

and

defend

them.

Russ

And

I

don't

think

that's.

That's

right.

There's

a

separation

of

church

and

state.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

And

you're

clearly

not

separating.

Lindz

We

need

to

add

another

one

at

this

point.

We

need

to

have

a

separate

separation

of

church

and

state

as

well

as

a

separation

of

state

and

social

policy.

Russ

Yeah,

I

agree.

Lindz

We

need

complete

separation

of

religion

and

social

policy

from

our

government.

Russ

For

sure.

Lindz

It

is

insane

how

much

they

are

trying

to

control

and

be

involved

in.

I'm

on

a

soapbox

now.

Let

me

come

back

down.

Russ

Well,

the.

So

what

the

first

commandment

is

about

God.

You

won't

believe

in

another

God,

but

this

God.

Lindz

Right.

That

is

against

other

children

who

are

of

other

faiths.

Russ

Correct.

Lindz

I

understand

that.

Russ

Like

I

said,

I

believe

in

the

Ten

Commandments

because

I'm

a

Christian.

Lindz

Oh,

I've

got

something

to

say

about

that.

Russ

However,

to

all

these

people

that

are

over

there

that

don't

believe

in

Christianity

or

Jesus

and

things

like

that,

it's

like

this.

How

does

that

make

them

feel?

Lindz

I'm

getting

so

excited

about

this

conversation.

Russ

Okay,

go.

Lindz

Okay.

So

on

the

Chosen,

the

new

season

came

out

and

the

episode,

I

can't

remember

which

episode

it

is,

but

Jesus

is

explaining

to

his

disciples

that

the

Ten

Commandments,

yes,

are

the

laws

of

Moses.

They

are

very

important,

but

they

do

not

trump

anything

that

Jesus

came

on

this

earth

to

do.

We

are

Christians.

We've

already

said

that.

Believe

in

Jesus.

Big

baby

Jesus.

Him

saying

that

like

the

example

was.

But

we're

supposed

to

honor

our

mother

and

father.

And

Jesus

says,

you.

You

can

honor

your

mother

and

father,

but

not

before

or

above

me.

Russ

Right?

Lindz

Yes.

So,

yes,

you

can

put

the

Ten

Commandments

in

school

if

that's

what

people

voted

on.

But

the

judicial

system

should

be

getting

involved

because

Jesus

said

the

Ten

Commandments

do

not

come

above

him.

Russ

It's

just

strange,

though,

how.

Lindz

I

don't

think

that

made

any

sense,

what

I

just

said.

Russ

But

it's

strange

how,

because

a

lot

of

the

people

that

are

supporters

of

this

will

get

super

mad

if

another

religion

said,

well,

we

want

ours

on

the

wall,

too.

Lindz

True

rules

for

me,

but

not

for

the.

Russ

It's

like,

no,

no,

no,

no.

That's

why

you

don't

put

any

of

that

in

school

at

all.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

And

that's

a

home

thing.

And

A

personal

quest

to

go

on

and

learn

about.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

It's

not

a

school

thing.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

School's

not

there

to

teach

you

a

religion.

And

that

actually

really

does

make

me

kind

of

angry

because

that

is

not

the

place

for

that.

Lindz

Agreed.

I

think.

Russ

But

it's

also

not

the

place

for

a

lot

of

stuff.

Lindz

It's

not

the

place

for

social

policy.

Russ

Exactly.

You

teach

me

math.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

You

teach

me

the

history

and

you

teach

me

science

in

English

and

then

you

send

me

home.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

That

was

the

weirdest

face

I've

ever

seen.

Lindz

It

went

away.

Could

you

move?

Russ

But

yeah,

I

just,

I.

It's.

Schools

are

turning

into

indoctrination

stations

when.

Lindz

I

feel

like

people

would

argue

with

you

on

what

you

just

said

about

teach

me

those

basic

fundamentals

and

send

me

home.

Because

a

lot

of

kids

aren't

getting

that

at

home,

Aren't

getting

the

social

training,

aren't

getting

the

exposure

to

all

of

these

other

things

that

goes

through

life.

It's

like.

But

that's

a

home

problem.

Russ

Yeah.

That's

not

a

state

issue.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

You

don't,

you

don't

then

blanket

say,

okay,

everybody,

every

kid

that

goes

to

public

school

now

has

to

learn

about

all

these

social

issues

and

all

these

religious

issues

and

all.

No.

Lindz

Right.

Russ

That's

separate.

That

is

a

home

thing.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

And

if

it's

not

at

home,

they'll

learn

it.

Lindz

Yep.

Russ

Kids

are

freaking

smart,

man.

Ours

is.

She

catches

up

on

stuff

and

we're.

Lindz

Like,

oh,

if

they

have

screens,

they'll

figure

it

out,

I

promise.

Russ

Yeah.

It's

just

wild

though,

that

they're

thinking

that

this

is

a

good

idea.

I

just,

like

I

said,

I'm

a

Christian

person.

I,

I

don't

think

school,

public

schools,

a

state

run

thing

or

a

government

run

thing

should

be

involved

in

religion

or

social

issues.

Lindz

For

sure.

Sure.

So

I

had

a

dream

the

other

night.

Russ

Oh,

God.

Did

I

get

punched

when

you

woke

up?

Lindz

No.

I

am

a

very

vivid

dreamer.

I

have

been

that

way

since,

honestly,

as

long

as

I

can

remember.

Russ

Yeah.

You've

sat

up

in

the

bed

and.

Lindz

Typed,

I

used

to

work

at

a

hotel.

And

yes,

I

was

checking

in,

whatever.

We

called

him

a

guest.

Thank

you.

A

guest

to

the

hotel.

I

sat

up

and

I

was,

yeah.

Russ

Like,

damn,

you

should,

you

should

call

them

up

and

get

overtime

checking

people

in

from

the

house.

Lindz

That

was

one

of

my

first,

like,

big

girl

jobs.

And

it

was

very

stressful.

But

most

recently,

like,

how

detailed

do

you

remember

things

from

your

dreams?

Because

rarely,

literally,

I

had

to

look

this

up.

I

had

a

dream

about

an

address,

a

full

address.

Don't

know

what

city,

state

or

zip

I

was

in,

but

it

was

4755

Moshell.

I

can't

remember

if

it

was

Drive

Court

street,

but

something.

Russ

Did

you

look

it

up?

Lindz

I

did.

It

doesn't

exist.

Russ

Okay,

good.

Lindz

It

doesn't

exist.

But

it

was

the

strangest

thing

that

it

was

in

my

head

when

I

woke

up

and

I

had

to.

I

had

to.

I

had

to

look

it

up.

I

had

to.

Russ

I

don't

think

I've

ever

been

able

to

remember

that

much

about

my

dreams.

Lindz

Oh

my

gosh.

Like,

it

was

insane

that

an

address

stuck

in

my

head.

Russ

It's

kind

of

weird,

right?

Lindz

Yeah,

a

little

crazy.

Oh,

you

almost

didn't

answer.

And

I

was

going

to

congratulate

you,

but

okay.

Have

you

heard

about

the

Hawk

tua

girl?

Russ

I

did.

I

don't

know

how

you

couldn't

have

heard

about

Hawk

to

a

girl.

That's

how

you

should

have

asked

me.

Have

you

not

heard

about

the

Hawk

to

a

girl?

Lindz

Huh?

Yeah,

she's

very

popular

right

now.

Russ

Yeah,

she's

a.

She's

a

living

meme.

Lindz

Yeah.

How

would

you.

I

don't

even

know

what

to

say

about

it,

to

be

honest

with

you.

Russ

Like,

I

thought

people

are

dogging

her

like,

her

dad's

gonna

be

so

proud.

It's

like

she

honestly,

she

was

being

funny

and

it

was

funny.

Yeah,

I

thought

that

was

funny

as.

And

everybody's

like,

oh,

the

hug

to

a

girl's

dad.

It's

like,

you

know,

I'm

like,

but

it's

just

being

funny,

man.

Lindz

In

all

of

the

music

that's

out

there

today,

there

are

work

wap.

For

example.

Russ

Well,

and

how

many

girls

are.

And

dudes

are

on

only

fans

and

all

that.

Selling

access

to

their

Hawk

tuas.

Hawk

tuas.

But

it's

just

weird

though.

It's

like,

I

don't

know,

you

guys

are

dogging

this

girl

about

being

freaking.

I

thought

it

was

hilarious,

to

be

honest

with

you.

But

being

really

funny.

Lindz

But

who

actually

does

that

sound?

I

mean,

I've

never

heard

somebody.

Russ

If

you

hawk

to

it

me,

I

would

be

pissed

because

that's

disrespectful.

Lindz

Oh,

God.

Russ

That's

Lugian.

Lindz

Right?

That's

what

I

thought

too.

Like,

she's

talking

about

a

loogie.

Russ

That's.

That's.

Lindz

That's

not

like

it.

Just

a

friendly.

Russ

That's

nasty.

Lindz

You're

about

to

become

your

own

little

meme.

Russ

That's

okay.

Lindz

Immortalized.

Russ

I'm

just

saying

that's

disrespectful.

No

hock

tooling

over

here.

That's.

That's

Vile.

Lindz

I've

got

a

final

thought

for

you.

Russ

Final?

Yeah,

Podcast

over.

Lindz

Before

it's

over,

do

you

hug

with

your

eyes

open

or

closed?

Russ

God,

I

don't

know.

That's

a

weird

question.

Lindz

So

going

back

to

the

Dallas

Cowboy

cheerleaders,

they

all

hug

a

lot

in

all

of

those

episodes.

And

some

of

the

girls

have

their

eyes

open,

some

of

them

have

them

closed.

And

I'm

like,

oh,

no,

what

do

I

do?

Russ

I

feel

like

my

eyes

are

open.

Lindz

I

feel

like.

Russ

Yeah,

I

feel

like

my

eyes

are

open

because

I'm

always

looking

out

for,

like,

ninjas

in

the

woods

and.

Lindz

Ninjas

in

the

woods

when

you're

hugging

somebody

in

the

house.

Russ

Weird

stray

cats

out

here

in

Florida.

Lindz

You

hug

our

daughter

before

she

goes

to

school.

Russ

Looking

all

over.

Lindz

Where's

our

cat

Benny?

Russ

Yeah,

I'm

always

on

high

alert.

God,

I'm

serious.

I'm

terrified.

Lindz

So

now

I'm

gonna

be

very

conscious

as

to

whether

my

eyes

are

open

or

closed.

Russ

You're

gonna

just

do

it?

Lindz

Like,

I'm

both

gonna

watch

out

for

the

ninjas.

Russ

All

right,

so

we

have

swapped

hosts

again.

Oh,

we

went

to.

We

are

now

on.

Let

me

just.

Let

me

just

back

it

up

here.

Lindz

Yeah,

do

that.

Russ

To

manage

a

podcast,

it

takes

a

lot

of

tools,

right?

Lindz

You

were

very

good

at

it.

Russ

Yeah,

we

had

a

Patreon,

we

had

a

website,

and

then

we

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a

host.

Two

or

three

separate

tools,

and

they

all

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money

and

they

aren't

cheap.

Well,

Substack

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of

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tools

in

one.

So

we've

got

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through

Substack,

and

now

we

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our

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It's

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you

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what

I'm

saying?

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Join

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Russ

Yeah.

What

did

you

want

to

call

the.

The

VIP

membership?

Lindz

I

don't

remember.

Russ

Unfiltered

Heathens

or

something

like

that.

Lindz

No.

Russ

What

you

lied

to

me.

Lindz

Free

or

free

opinions?

I

don't

know.

It's.

It's

still

on

the

whiteboard.

Russ

The

Heathens

were

better.

Lindz

Thanks.

My

first

idea

was

better.

Okay,

gotcha.

Russ

Love

you.

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