#41 - The Crucial Role of Food in Our Lives: A Conversation with Justin Bizzarro

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Welcome to the Unholy Union.

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Okay, so we have a special guest today.

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Someone that we do not know personally yet.

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Yeah, this gentleman has accomplished so much, has so much going on for him.

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I can't wait to jump into all this, but let's start with his intro.

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So Justin Bizarro is a serial food, restaurant, technology, media, and marketing entrepreneur

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who helped build a 24-year-old group of food and restaurant-related businesses.

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He created with his father and business partners out of his family's basement in 1998.

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He's a highly desired business management, personal and athlete growth, free market,

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food and diversity, and entrepreneurial, you can get that word out, leadership speaker.

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Justin's expertise are in human growth, motivation, leadership, and management development, health

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foods, beverages, global lean manufacturing facilities, vertically integrated businesses.

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Justin also received his BA in international business and management from Dickinson College

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in 2002, and his MBA from University of North Carolina Chapel Hill in 2014.

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And me personally, when we got your intake form and wanted to be on the show, I went

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through and started looking at all of your accomplishments and all the things that you're

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involved in.

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And not just your intro, but the things that you are doing are fenced.

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Yeah. You're in so much.

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How do you have time to do anything?

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I started when I was 18.

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So, well, I probably started being an entrepreneur when I was a kid mowing lawns and stuff for

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sure.

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My parents taught me business.

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I grew up on a farm.

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That's just one of the things I think you just learn to handle your workload differently

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on a farm.

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Like, the animal's got to live.

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So, you don't want to play soccer and you want to go to school.

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You've got to help out on the farm.

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It's just one of those things.

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And my parents always, if you want things, you've got to have your own money.

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You've got to determine it for yourself.

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So I was very young.

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I couldn't even touch the pedals of the tractor when I started mowing lawns for my parents

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on the farm.

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I just knew that I wanted to do it and they offered me money.

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They taught me business at a very young age.

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Had to lease the tractors from them and use that and they would go get the gasoline and

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stuff and they taught me how to run a business and what a cash flow statement looked like,

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income statement, what a balance sheet looked like at a very young age.

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So it just kind of just stuck.

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And then by the time I was 14 years old, it was on to fruit stands and produce stands

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and things like that to sell fruits and vegetables on the side of the road.

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And by the time I was 16, we had four of them all around Maryland, the northern DC area.

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And it just sort of happened.

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So to really answer your question, I don't really know any different.

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It's always trying to do things.

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And then by the time I was 18, just by weird coincidence, I broke my foot and I was having

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too much time on my hands that summer and I wasn't playing soccer, which was what I

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was doing.

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I would go over to Europe to play soccer every summer with a bunch of it.

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And so in doing that and breaking my foot, I had a lot of time on my hands.

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And next thing you know, a company was started out of my parents' basement with the help

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of my father.

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Of course, he also has experience in food and did airline food all over the world and

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build 122 kitchens across the world doing airlines.

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It was in the blood.

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It was Mary up, but spin off and then called Caterer now it's owned by Sky Chef.

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So but the airline feeding business has changed quite a bit over since 2001.

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Sorry, 9-11.

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Yeah.

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So what about did COVID affect that at all too?

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Because airlines were kind of squashed a little bit.

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Yeah.

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We weren't, we aren't in the airline food.

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We were in airport food at that.

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Oh, okay.

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We impact us.

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But as of 1996, my father was, 97, my father was out of the airline food business.

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And yeah.

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So that sort of was, he got into real estate and stuff like that.

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And then I sort of dragged him back into food, I guess in 1998, or he dragged me into food

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with him.

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However, you want to look at that.

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Yeah, for sure.

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He started it, right?

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, to that point, a common theme throughout your background seems to be food-related.

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Where does the passion come from and how do you continue it?

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Obviously, it stems from your parents, but it seems like you went all in.

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There's two things.

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One is even as a kid, even though I didn't know what the word was, I knew I wanted to

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be an entrepreneur.

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I just, I didn't go with, I didn't fit in.

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That was the word I would use.

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I more or less belonged like, and it was always with older people and it was always in business

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settings and it was just something that I was attracted to.

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And food was the vehicle by which I would do it.

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And mowing lawns, things like that.

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But really the passion comes from like, I don't have fear.

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It's a weird thing.

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I just don't have a lot of fear in life.

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Things don't scare me.

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Heights, roller coasters, jumping out of an airplane stuff doesn't scare me.

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But I have one huge fear which is dying without significance or accomplishing everything I

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wanted to.

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You know, I don't know if significance is the right word, but significance in that,

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not that I need to be known in that, that I didn't make the world a better place than

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I found it.

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And so, weird, I don't know, it was a seed that was planted to me from the day I was

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born.

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I just, from the day I can remember, I remember this overwhelming feeling of not wanting to

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die without having made a difference or having accomplished something or living a good life

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and having good relationships and stuff like that.

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So that's the real drive there.

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It's what keeps me going, I think, is that fear.

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I also would say it's just, I don't know, I like doing what I do.

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I like being busy.

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I like having purpose.

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For lack of a better term, I like moving forward.

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And that really, there's days that I don't want to, for sure, I'm just like any other.

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But for some reason, I don't know how not to.

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You know, I don't know how to take a day off.

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And I don't know how to hit pause.

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I mean, sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

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But generally it takes, I don't know how to describe it, but if you're really present

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in every moment, even with your family and even with your business and even with that,

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it becomes a real motivator because you're able to just make time for everything.

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And in order to do that, you have to cherish every moment.

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So one of the things also is this, it's almost like FOMO, fear of missing out, but it's not

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going out to the bars or going out partying.

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Like I would say it's more or less like, I don't want to miss moments in business or

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family or opportunities that could help me or my family or the people that work for me

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or my future or my family's future.

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My family's pretty important to me.

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So things like that, I would say.

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Yeah.

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And one of the things that you said is that fear of not making an impact, right?

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Or not leaving the world in a better place than you found it, essentially.

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What does that look like for you?

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What is, I guess, success look like for you?

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How are you measuring that?

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Measuring that based on your business.

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Yeah.

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I'm interested.

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It's a good question.

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I used to think it was monetary.

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Like when I was growing up, I used to feel like money meant a lot.

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But money has not proven to make relationships better for me.

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It doesn't sometimes make businesses better while it's an indicator of doing well in life.

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And it depends on the definition of it.

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And it's more like, I would describe it more like a trophy.

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You win it some days, you lose it others, and you win championships, you lose it.

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But I would say the thing of success really is peace of mind.

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Any other way in that peace of mind, like it being able to live a good life, being able

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to do the right things, being able to afford freedom and independence to make those decisions.

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However that looks, it doesn't always, money doesn't buy you that.

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Your actions buy you that.

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Your character buys you that.

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So as I've gotten older, I'm 43 now, I would say in some great highs, some low lows, of

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course, as any entrepreneur goes through, or any person in life, I would say, depending

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on, you know, and your risk is always how low the low is and how high the high is.

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That's just life.

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And so I would definitely say that success for me is based on my support system.

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Who are the people I'm surrounded by?

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Who are the people I'm attracting into my life right now?

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If I'm doing things wrong or I'm not being successful, that circle or the people that

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are coming into my life or the businesses that I have are not doing well culturally.

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They're not doing well with the personalities in there.

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And I try to live by principles over personalities, by everything in my circles and my businesses.

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And what I mean by that just as an example to the audience is if I'm a meat eater and

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I have someone who's a vegetarian, well, there could be different reasons we are those things.

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But if the principle is we're trying to do better for this world and better for the animals

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on it, okay, we align in principle that we should, we align so I can see us working together.

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But if they don't align and it's more personality based based on that there's not a purpose

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behind it, there's not a principle behind it, it's very hard for those for a defined

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success in a business and friendship and relationships.

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As a couple raising kids, you name it, if you don't have that overall purpose.

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And I see that a lot today, a lot of people get into relationships, a lot of people start

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businesses, but they don't ultimately have a purpose of what they're trying to accomplish.

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And for me, like to go back to it, it's to make that impact.

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It is just, again, a vehicle, a major vehicle to better this world or better this planet.

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If we eat properly, if we make food properly, if those of us who are food entrepreneurs

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realize that we make huge impact and influence in the world and our legacy.

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So success to me is influence and impact too.

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Who am I helping?

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Who am I supporting?

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What are the differences being made?

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Are we actually moving the needle on bettering this world in terms of food or hope or kindness

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or love or spirituality?

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Things like that.

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So it's a really big answer.

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No, it's good.

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No, that was awesome.

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We've got a lot of good sound bites, I think.

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But it's one of those things that I feel like over time it's snowboard for me.

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And over time, that definition of success has gotten larger because as humans, we start

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to realize, and I heard a statistic the other day, that even the most introverted person

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still impacts and influences 10,000 people in their lifetime.

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But the thing there is it doesn't say whether it's good or bad.

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So that's where it's like, how do I do it in a positive way?

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There is this thing, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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So it's finding that balance.

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It's finding that balance and you're going to make mistakes.

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You're going to upset people.

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And a lot of people aren't going to like you.

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And I think that that's the thing, especially if you make them feel uncomfortable and they're

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not ready to feel uncomfortable.

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So that's part of it.

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And this is my last part, I would say, on the answer.

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Success is also defined in my pursuit.

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If I am constantly pursuing growth and the uncomfortability of it, I am in a successful

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situation.

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Because as humans, I feel like whether we realize it or not, we need to keep growing

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just because our education stops or our formal education.

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We get some of us stop learning.

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We stop growing.

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We stop reading.

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We stop doing whatever we want.

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Or listening, whatever.

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I think podcasts is a great way to grow for sure.

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But for me, if I'm in a state of not growing, I do feel unsuccessful in my life.

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I feel I can get frustrated.

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I can be emotional in those states.

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Like weirdly, I can feel unstable.

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And it's like, if I'm not moving, I'm not growing.

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And if I'm not moving and growing and living, you're dying for me.

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Like in that, those to that fear again of living life to the fullest because one, I don't ever

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know when it's going to end.

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No one does.

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I learned that on a farm.

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At a whim, anything bad can happen.

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Anything good can happen.

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And God works in different ways.

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But at the same time, you just need to be prepared.

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And if you think that you have a lifetime, you don't.

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So make as much impact now and start compounding that impact and that influence and your character

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in leading by example.

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So other people, again, are attracted to it.

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I think a lot of people try to promote themselves.

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I think truly as humans, we attract things.

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We lead well when we are doing well.

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You know, so long-winded.

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I think that speaks directly to your passion and everything that you are involved in is

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a clear depiction of everything you just described.

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No, that was awesome.

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I think to your point, being stagnant in life is really bad for mental health.

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I think that was part of, I don't know if you listened to our OCD episodes, but I went

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through a really bad bout of mental illness.

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And truthfully, I think a lot of it had to do with me being at a job where I was just

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coasting and not reaching for something better.

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I used to have before that a lot of drive.

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I would bounce jobs to get promoted, but I stopped.

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I got super comfortable and then all of a sudden my mind broke.

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But I do think trying to push forward constantly is really good for the human mind.

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And our next question is you actually kind of prompted this one with one of your Instagram

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posts.

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It was, I read it and I read it more than once and I'm like, holy crap.

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But what do you believe is the biggest struggle for the American consumer regarding our food

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consumption?

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Oh, that's a good one.

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Well, it's access to diversity of foods.

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One, I think that that's if we're really going to talk about humans and what we need.

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Again, I was in health food, hospitals, grocery stores, direct to consumer, athlete meals,

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restaurants, but a lot of it was health based, but particularly in health care.

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We were trying to locally source everything in 350 miles of each one of our facilities.

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The food would come in today.

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We are this morning, we produce it today.

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It would then go out on our trucks tonight for lunch and dinner tomorrow and breakfast

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the following day if it were hospitals, which was our major clients for 24 years.

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And locally sourcing took a while.

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We had to build those systems.

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We had to build that infrastructure because the volume of food we were doing in institutions,

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you know, including we did universities and we did schools and we did gas stations or

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or rest stops or gas stops, whatever you want to call them.

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And so the thing about it is our food system is very mono.

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It's not diverse.

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We have cows, pigs and chickens and we sometimes eat turkey.

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Okay, it's probably on a sandwich and in terms of fruits and vegetables, we don't really

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have a lot of diversity.

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Orange bananas, apples, maybe a pineapple here or watermelon or some cantaloupe and stuff

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like that, but they're getting rare.

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It's more and more rare and we mass produce wheat, corn and soybeans.

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Okay, so thinking about all the food in the world that's out, natural nutrients, vitamins,

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things that help our immune systems, the nutrition that we need, we lack that nutrition

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and that diversity.

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So we often talk about obesity.

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Well, obesity is not the result of eating too much and starvation is not the result

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of eating too little.

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Okay, the volume of food has nothing to do with being obese or being starving.

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Yes, we need calories to survive.

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I agree with that, but I don't agree with it in that we naturally will find balance

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as humans proper weight, proper mental health, proper things like that with starting off

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with a balanced diet and by balanced, I don't mean the food pyramid that we do in the United

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States.

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It's like so backward, unbelievable.

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What I'm talking about is we should be eating diverse animals.

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There's alligator in the United States.

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There's bison.

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There's elk.

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We have venison deer for anyone who doesn't know where venison is.

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We have rabbit.

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We have quail.

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We have Cornish hen.

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We have pheasant.

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We have goat, sheep.

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In addition to cow, pig, chicken, so turkey.

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So that's an example and amongst all the vegetables and fruits in the world, we only

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are on the tip of the iceberg when we see go to our grocery store.

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There's not even a fraction of it's like 0.0000001% of what's available on the world, especially

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if you travel.

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So ideally the biggest trouble for the American consumer is access to that.

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That's number one.

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Number two is we, in our institutions, our schools, our universities, our long-term care

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homes, our hospitals, also being in those industries.

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And I would say this is a worldwide problem is we default to big corporations.

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A lot of them don't care about locally sourcing or supporting our food systems.

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A lot of them care about what's known in the food industry as rebates.

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Who's going to pay me the most money on the back end for doing that food?

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So that's a really sneaky way of being like, oh, well, someone can get 10% on the back

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end.

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Someone can get 1%.

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But it's totally up to us how we do it.

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So I will be perfectly honest, it's a legal way of bribing you to buy your product, because

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that number is not standard.

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And it is a totally way that food goes into the place.

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Or I'll pay you a lot of money to put this food on the grocery store shelf.

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That is also what happens.

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Or I'll give you all my product for free.

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You pay me when you sell it.

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It becomes a money scenario.

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So the companies with the biggest pockets, the deepest pockets who often mass produce

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things that use a lot of chemicals in their food, that use a lot of things to extend shelf

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life.

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Because guess what?

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That's how you make more money.

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That's what goes on there.

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So while I love capitalism and I agree with it and I am a capitalist, I'm also an industrialist

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in food and believe that we are lacking that.

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The third thing is, is we are uneducated as consumers.

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For the thing we do the most of in our lives and we break bread around and we have celebrations

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around, we are completely ignorant to what's going on in our food.

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Or how our food's done.

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Or what we're actually eating.

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Or what happens to that food.

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And where it comes from.

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Like most of our food now after COVID is imported into this country.

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For example, we had a foreign government country take over our entire pork industry.

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They bought Smithfield.

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They closed down over nine processing plants and now do it elsewhere and then import that

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in.

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All of our fishing products, all of our fish and seafood is imported.

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93% of it's China.

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That's not saying that it's off of China shores.

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That's still allowing the Chinese for some reason to fish off of our shorelines even

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though we're not allowed to as Americans.

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So things like that, like who is running our businesses, who's running the grocery stores

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we shop at, what is the actual interest there.

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And I agree for profit matters.

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I'm an entrepreneur and a capitalist.

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I agree and people need to benefit from it.

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It's a huge inspiration.

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It keeps businesses alive.

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But at the same time, if we're going to do it, why not do it the proper way?

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It's always something that perp, especially when we talk about what my drive is or who

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I surround myself.

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We're not having positive impact.

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Why are we doing this?

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It sounds like it's these mega corporations because they're squashing people like you

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who want to do it locally.

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But you can't really afford to because you're trying to sell this stuff in the grocery store,

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but they bought all the shelf space because of like you just said, backdoor deals and

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stuff.

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And I think it's also easy.

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People take the easy path.

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It's easier to buy from a conglomerate.

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It's just easier.

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The lazy road is also the road to hell.

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But it's like, even if you're talking about your physical health or whatever, but in business,

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it's the same.

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We take shortcuts.

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It's not only corporations for profit.

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It's a lot of nonprofits that are going in and buying up farms right now in the United

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States.

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That's a big problem.

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A lot of our farms have been sold to the Chinese, the Dutch, the Saudi Arabians, for

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example, and there's nothing wrong with that, I guess.

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But we can't do the same in reverse.

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So not like we can go to other countries and buy up land.

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And a lot of countries like Turkey, Brazil, China, a majority of the company has to be

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owned by a local company for you to even do business there.

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So like we're playing by different rules in the United States.

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And for all intents and purposes, while we believe we're doing the right thing for humanity,

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we're doing the wrong thing for our future and the legacy of food.

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It's a little bit scary in that most humans don't have any idea where the fruit comes

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from or who's providing it.

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And we turn it completely over to individuals that at the end of the day.

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And I've been in these rooms and I've worked with these companies and I've partnered with

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these companies.

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They do not care about anything other than how much they can profit or get those rebates.

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It's not about providing the right food.

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They can claim nutrition.

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But if you watch these companies over the three decades that I've been in this business,

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their marketing changes with whatever the way the wind blows.

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Oh, it's plant-based protein time.

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Oh, let's do meatless Mondays.

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Okay.

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Like what?

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Okay.

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Now it's organic.

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And let's do the organic movement.

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Okay.

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Good marketing gets people rooting for us.

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Okay.

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Now it's time for free range chicken and pastured pork.

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Great.

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And then COVID comes and then it's, okay, let's move away from that as much processed

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food as possible because now it's all about medicine is the answer, not food.

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And so it's just marketing, advertising, trying to make a quick buck, finding, thinking short

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term.

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I mean, I would say the biggest thing we, as Americans as a whole, is we are very short

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term thinking.

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We don't realize that most other countries are very long term thinking.

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They're strategic thinking.

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We play checkers.

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They're playing chess.

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Especially in food, we are just here to make a dollar and it's great.

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We're a capitalist country.

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Like I said, we're industrialists.

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We're entrepreneurs.

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But if you look at the way the rest of the world's playing the food game, they're playing

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it for the long run.

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We're playing it for whatever we can get right now or whatever the marketing buzz is right

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now.

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Do you think that any of that, like you said, we're trying to push medicine and not good

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quality, healthy foods.

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Do you think that could be because they're in cahoots with each other?

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I mean, this is a very, very left field, but it's sketchy to me.

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It's like all this process stuff and preservatives and all.

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First of all, you're sending food from China to here.

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If I have an apple sitting on my shelf over here, it goes bad in a day.

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You know what I mean?

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And how are you sending it from there all the way over to here?

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And it's not going bad.

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I mean, if you look at, we used to do a lot of business with Mexico.

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They used to, Nasta and Canada and Mexico, we'd trade a lot of food back and forth.

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Broccoli and cauliflower, when we couldn't, when it wasn't seasonal here to grow, it usually

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was growing in Mexico.

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Okay.

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So you could get things year round like tomatoes and peppers and cauliflower and broccoli.

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Okay.

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And now most of that stuff comes not from those places.

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The cauliflower and broccoli in particular in the commercial setting does come from China.

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It is flash frozen over there and produced.

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And somehow it existed and the transition just magically happened during COVID.

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I'm just, but how do you all of a sudden did you grow all that stuff, have all that stuff

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frozen and all of a sudden COVID happens.

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And now we're buying from China versus from Mexico because the border issue, but yet there's

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no border issue when it's coming from the sea on ships.

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So just a lot of things have changed.

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The United States used to be the intermediary and a lot of food trade around the world.

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We are no longer that.

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We do not, we no longer hold that, what I would call power.

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And as the United States, we were free minded.

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We try to have balance.

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Even there is corruption.

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Don't get me wrong, but we are more balanced minded even in that compared to governments

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or countries that are not fair minded that are totally 100% about their citizens only

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and about their influence only and infiltration only of their food is the fastest way to influence

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because we don't care about it in the United States.

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So because we've turned a blind eye to it and it's such a large industry, think about

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how much food you eat per day and how many Americans there are, for example, or how many

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citizens in the world.

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Like it's a really easy way because no one cares or no one pays attention to grab a lot

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of control and power within our government.

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So do I think they're in cahoots?

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Yes, of course, there's lobbying.

478
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,120
You have pharmaceutical companies.

479
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:33,920
They have a lot of power.

480
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,560
Food as medicine goes against medicine, you know, and our pharmaceutical business.

481
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,760
I believe both are necessary.

482
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,000
I believe both are necessary.

483
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,680
Why there's not a Congress out of a line both, I do not know.

484
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,240
But it's either one or the other.

485
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,720
You go to the hospital and the thing they spend the least amount of money on is the

486
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,520
food yet you need to be eating properly to get out of the hospital.

487
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:04,400
It always for me how I behave, how our meals literally are less than $10 a meal in the

488
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,840
hospital with the snacks, with three round meals a day, two snacks were like sometimes

489
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,960
as low as $7.50 a meal.

490
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,960
And we need to lower our costs.

491
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,200
But the medicine that you're giving them four times a day costs $70 a freaking pill.

492
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,240
Excuse me, what's going on here?

493
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,920
Like this is up that we're putting the cart before the horse.

494
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,600
We are looking at this backwards.

495
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,200
But the human mind, we want, we think there's a hack.

496
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,200
We think there's a hack for everything.

497
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,880
And so there is a hack back to the point of diversity of food.

498
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:43,080
The hack is eating lots of different kinds of food, diversifying your diet, building

499
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,440
your immune system through multiple nutrients and vitamins sourced from many different kinds

500
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,920
of food, or vegetables or animals.

501
00:29:52,920 --> 00:30:01,080
And just saying we are the top of the food chain and we are that and we have grown to

502
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,360
who we are by having diversity of diets.

503
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:10,320
It's only over the last 100 years that we've sort of gone into industrial farming, industrial

504
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,920
food because we're like, oh, we're going to feed everyone and we're going to stop starvation.

505
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,480
Well, it's great.

506
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,520
But if you're not getting the nutrients and vitamins that you need back to my point on

507
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,760
being skinny or obese, you're going to keep eating if you're not getting the vitamins

508
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,000
and minerals you need.

509
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:33,120
And even if I gave you a bunch of food that you have the number of calories you need,

510
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,120
you're going to be thin.

511
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,120
You're going to starve.

512
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,680
You're going to starve no matter how many calories you have.

513
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,680
You may get by, but you're going to be starving.

514
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Okay.

515
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,200
And starvation, when we have a first world country like the United States, when you're

516
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320
starving or constantly hungry, you just eat more.

517
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,400
And starvation is not a lack of volume.

518
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280
It's a lack of nutrition.

519
00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:02,040
So one of the things you're saying too, though, is really clear that it's not just starving

520
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,520
because of calories, starving because of nutrients, right?

521
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,400
Like your body needs this to grow.

522
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,400
Yeah.

523
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Oh, wow.

524
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:16,560
And you said if you eat a lot, but you're eating a lot of diverse, good food, you're

525
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,640
not going to get fat.

526
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,640
I know this.

527
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,960
And when I was on the road a lot, especially at the beginning of my career, you're eating

528
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,520
fast food sometimes like two, three times a day.

529
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,520
Okay.

530
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,600
You are still starving.

531
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,880
You need a pizza at night.

532
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,160
You're waking up in the middle of the night.

533
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,160
You're hungry.

534
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,160
You're going to the fridge.

535
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Where's that gallon of milk so I can get that down?

536
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:44,840
Or a bowl of cereal or whatever I can do or a cake or a hot pocket or whatever I can

537
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,520
get in my body at that time, and that's all because of what we're talking about here.

538
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,800
I think there's not really a lot of vegetables and fast food.

539
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,280
And even the healthiest fast food doesn't have a lot of diversity.

540
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,920
It just is being aware of that.

541
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,560
And as we're getting better at science, so I'm not debunking science or medicine, but

542
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,840
we're also understanding that they are complementary.

543
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:19,680
It's okay for us as humans to use our will to compliment nature, but at the same time

544
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,280
needs to be complementary in a partnership, not necessarily one or the other.

545
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:33,120
And so the lobbying and stuff like that in the government, back to the point, the coercion,

546
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,520
and it's not a conspiracy theory.

547
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,080
We all know lobbying exists.

548
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,680
We all know that companies with the biggest pockets pay the biggest money.

549
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,680
And how do they do it?

550
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,360
They set up accounts and they figure out how to, oh, I'm not buying the senator a car,

551
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,520
but his wife and two kids have a car.

552
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,600
And they're consultants for our company, even though the senator's not, but his wife is

553
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,120
a consultant for the company and his two kids who are weirdly nine and 11 years old, they're

554
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,680
consultants for the company.

555
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:09,400
So it's like we are, and we talk about being woke up, we're not awake at all.

556
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,240
We are how much we think that happens and I'm not, I get the idea, but if we want to

557
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,600
look at the way everything plays out, everything is always creating division in our society.

558
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,960
For sure.

559
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,960
And that is causing distraction.

560
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,320
And why is there that distraction?

561
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,320
Because they don't want us looking at what really goes on.

562
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,320
Okay.

563
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200
And division is a way of keeping power.

564
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Okay.

565
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,680
So if you're not a really powerful person that didn't earn their way along, it sort

566
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:45,520
of manipulates their way, the thing they do really well is constantly cause chaos amongst

567
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080
their rates, organize chaos.

568
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:54,040
And they're constantly making sure their people are comfortable so they don't want to grow,

569
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,200
but they're also constantly making it so they don't get along with each other.

570
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,200
For sure.

571
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,160
So they're at the leader as the problem.

572
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,160
They don't look at...

573
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Divided we fall.

574
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,160
Yeah.

575
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,440
Exactly what's happening if we look at even the vegan movement right now.

576
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,440
Okay.

577
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,640
I understand it's a choice for everyone.

578
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Okay.

579
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,640
For sure.

580
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:20,000
Based on principle, but saying that it betters the planet and it saves lives is a total false

581
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,000
thing.

582
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:26,120
If you ever grew up on a farm and you plow a field, you kill more rats and squirrels than

583
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,440
one cow's life ever cost you by just grazing.

584
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,880
A cow does not kill anything.

585
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,400
Even cow, it just grazes on a field.

586
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,040
It may kill another cow if it's really hungry.

587
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,240
It may accidentally step on some worms.

588
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,240
Right.

589
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:43,240
But generally, how many animals is the cow killing?

590
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:49,280
And a cow fart that's so popular to believe right now is killing the rice fields produce

591
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,800
more methane than the cows do.

592
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,800
Wow.

593
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,480
See, this is the shit right here.

594
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,480
It's like...

595
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,480
Yeah.

596
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,360
I'm not...this is not my statistics, these are things that anyone can look online when

597
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,160
I'm saying and look at this information.

598
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,160
For sure.

599
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,800
You know, a matter of educating ourselves.

600
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,400
Like I said, and growing, but again, when you plow a field, you kill snakes, you kill

601
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:20,280
bugs, you kill mice, you kill rats, you kill squirrels, you kill worms, you kill anything

602
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,000
that's in the soil.

603
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
And they're all in there.

604
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
They're all hiding in there.

605
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,440
You kill foxes, you kill bunnies because they have bunny dens in your fields, especially

606
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,480
during the spring when we're plowing fields, when they're being born.

607
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,320
You're killing tons of rabbits, tons of them when you plow fields.

608
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,960
And so I'm not saying we should get rid of farming.

609
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,600
I'm just saying we need to have a realistic conversation over what is really going on

610
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,960
if we think we're saving lives by being eating more vegetables.

611
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Yeah.

612
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,960
It's not for...

613
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,960
For sure.

614
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,960
For sure.

615
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,400
I get...so some of that movement is...

616
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,920
Is because of what you spoke about, this mass produced stuff.

617
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Yup.

618
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Yup.

619
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Because the conditions that those animals are in is awful.

620
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,600
I mean, they're...

621
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,600
In some places, they're...

622
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

623
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,880
They're not humanely slaughtered and things like that.

624
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,360
But it's like, okay, well then let's stop buying from these big corporations that want

625
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800
to burn and churn and just make profit.

626
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,800
And let's go to people like you where you locally source from a butcher down the street.

627
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,760
You went and saw him butcher a cow and he does it in the right way.

628
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,760
Yeah.

629
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,360
Killing an animal sucks.

630
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,360
But diversity, we have to eat.

631
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Well, that can start all life, right?

632
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:38,640
Exactly.

633
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,120
Like you said we are the apex, right?

634
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,000
Well, I mean, look at...

635
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,480
There was a tweet and it made me laugh so hard.

636
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:53,760
It said, why does PETA say, I can't eat fish, but other fish eat fish?

637
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,720
I laugh so damn hard.

638
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:59,720
I'm like, wow, I never even thought of it that way.

639
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:04,160
The animals they're trying to protect are eating each other and we can't eat them?

640
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,640
I mean, if you watch any of the shows, I think there's like Mexico untamed right now as

641
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,840
a show on TV.

642
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,800
One of the things in there is animals will even turn on their own species and kill each

643
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,800
other.

644
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,800
Yes.

645
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,840
And they're not doing it to eat each other.

646
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,840
They're just doing it to kill each other.

647
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Like I'm just...

648
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,600
So here's the thing, okay, we're higher beings.

649
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Here's in my opinion the answer.

650
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,920
Like we have a responsibility.

651
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,680
We are the angels on this planet.

652
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,040
When it talks about angels, we are them.

653
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,400
We're the highest being on this planet.

654
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,440
We're the ones between whatever else is next or nothing next and the animals.

655
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,320
So if we're a caretaker, if we're not going to eat the cows, are we going to have them

656
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,320
as pets?

657
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,320
No.

658
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,320
Guess what?

659
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,520
We've dem-aided them.

660
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,720
No one's going to have pet cows in their house.

661
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:52,720
Okay.

662
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:53,720
Maybe we get milk out of them.

663
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:56,200
If you're vegan, you don't drink milk either.

664
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:04,000
So here's my issue is if we don't eat them and we don't take care of them, what happens

665
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000
to them?

666
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
They go extinct.

667
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
You have no use for them.

668
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,000
Right.

669
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,240
They have purpose.

670
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,440
But do I think we need to utilize them and praise their life?

671
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,440
Yes.

672
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,440
That's part of being...

673
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Do we need to be more responsible in the way we eat them and eat more of the animal and

674
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,520
utilize all of it?

675
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,520
Yeah.

676
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Absolutely.

677
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Of course.

678
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,240
But the better chicken farms don't go burning their chickens.

679
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,760
They have alligators.

680
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,200
They feed it to the alligators.

681
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000
The alligators eat the chickens.

682
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,240
They also process the alligator meat and the alligator skins.

683
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:36,240
That's utilizing.

684
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,560
That's creating a circle there.

685
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,560
And that's a death circle.

686
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
I'm sorry.

687
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,440
There are a lot of chickens that die, but it's still nothing compared to when we plow

688
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,440
fields.

689
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,440
Right.

690
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Okay.

691
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,440
There's just...

692
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,520
And do we try to manipulate things and manipulate the animals?

693
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Yes.

694
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,520
Do the treatments be better?

695
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Yes.

696
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,520
They should be better.

697
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,520
We should have healthier.

698
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,080
We should have more rotation.

699
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,120
We should be growing more animals on a farm and fruits and vegetables, and they should

700
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,320
be rotated.

701
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,320
No doubt about it.

702
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,960
There's a lot of farmers out there that are doing regenerative farming, as it's called,

703
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,920
or rotational farming in the non-traditional sense or...

704
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,920
Sorry.

705
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,040
And I will say traditional since it's the way we did it up until the 100 years and the

706
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,840
non-commercial sense.

707
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,680
It's profitability.

708
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,600
I get world competitiveness, but we're not competitive on a world scale.

709
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,600
Right.

710
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,600
Okay.

711
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,600
I don't have the cheapest labor.

712
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,240
So why are we mass producing things?

713
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,760
Why are we subsidizing as the government?

714
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,760
Why?

715
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Because pork was an American business.

716
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,520
We sold it.

717
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Okay.

718
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,280
What are the other animals that we can produce here to go full circle on the other question?

719
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,280
We have bison.

720
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,280
We have elk.

721
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,280
We have alligator.

722
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,160
We have all meats that are American meats that we could thrive in growing here in a rotational

723
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:52,320
environment.

724
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,320
You can't have bison near cattle because they will...

725
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,520
Disease will kill each other.

726
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,240
No different than the Europeans coming into the Native Americans.

727
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:02,640
And so they just don't...

728
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,160
Those species aren't...

729
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,600
They don't mix well, but you can keep them at distance and rotate them.

730
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:16,720
You can also then pigs, goats, whatever, sheep, quail, chickens, whatever they can

731
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,640
rotate with them.

732
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,440
And of course there's eagles that are going to eat chickens if they're outside and that's

733
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,440
what they do.

734
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,800
They're going to kill things.

735
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,800
That's what they do.

736
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,320
Circle of life.

737
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Yeah.

738
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,840
To your point, everything has a purpose.

739
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,080
It's just not necessarily what we think it is or we want it to be.

740
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,960
At the end of the day, we have to realize that this is just the way of life.

741
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,080
And do I think there's a purpose for all of it?

742
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Yes.

743
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,400
If we ever have to leave this planet, we're going to have to eat plants first.

744
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,440
They're the things that grow because if we take animals with us, it's going to take us

745
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,400
a while to build up a population of animals for us to eat.

746
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,800
So do I think both have principles and a purpose?

747
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,960
Yes, of course.

748
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,800
For human survival, I do.

749
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,680
I just don't think that I think they are personality choices.

750
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:13,800
I don't think that either one has the impact that we think they do because the truth impact

751
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,520
is eating diversely.

752
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:22,080
So interestingly, the problem with consumer and health and humans' health is the same

753
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,640
thing that's the earth health.

754
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,920
We want a better earth.

755
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,320
We want a healthier earth.

756
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:32,400
We got to diversify our foods and the way we grow things in our farming.

757
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:38,000
And in order to do that, we also need to diversify our food, which ultimately makes us healthier,

758
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,200
live longer, feeds our brain.

759
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Because whatever anyone shakes it any way to the other point you made, if you feed a

760
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,680
lion vegetables, they will go blind.

761
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,680
They will eventually die.

762
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,680
They are meaters.

763
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,080
They want meat.

764
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,720
Their body processes meat.

765
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:59,120
If you start feeding a cow a bunch of meat, yes, the cow might survive for a while.

766
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,800
Cows can eat meat and they will kill each other if they are hungry and eat each other.

767
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,960
So everyone thinks the cow is just a grass eater.

768
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,960
It's not.

769
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,600
It will eat its own.

770
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,920
Any animal will eat its own, especially a mammal if it's hungry.

771
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,320
We as humans know this to be true also.

772
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:23,480
So it's just, we think that by thinking, I don't know, by creating figments of our imagination.

773
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,720
That's how we describe it.

774
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:25,720
We create figments.

775
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,600
We all create them to be true.

776
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,200
And the thing that we're human, like I get it, we want to think larger and we want to

777
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,120
think more altruistically.

778
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,120
It's important.

779
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,680
But at the end of the day, we are still humans and we need to thrive as humans.

780
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,120
And as those higher beings, we are more like shepherds.

781
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,120
Yes.

782
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,160
And not saviors.

783
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,600
I think that we are not saviors.

784
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,800
We don't save anything.

785
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,320
Anytime we try to save anything, we make it 10 times worse.

786
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,120
That's the road, El, paved with good intentions.

787
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,120
We are just shepherds of the world.

788
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,680
We have to live in unison with it.

789
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,960
We have to live in collaboration with it.

790
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,040
We have to live alongside of it.

791
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,200
We are not.

792
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,680
And when we start thinking that we're higher than that and we're not sort of, and I said

793
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:20,800
angels because we are a higher being, taking care of everything altruistically and making

794
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,240
sure they fulfill their purpose too.

795
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:29,920
And at some point, our planet was created, grown, even if it's a big bang theory or whatever,

796
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,120
there is a hierarchy that goes on in the world.

797
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Right?

798
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Food eats food.

799
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,120
Period.

800
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Yep.

801
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,120
Yep.

802
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:44,520
We, and to deny that, denies like what has logically been done for thousands of years

803
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,080
and why I believe we are intelligent enough to figure out better ways to do things.

804
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,360
It is not getting rid of the animals that we eat because what's going to happen to them?

805
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,720
It's like we will have no use for them and they will have no purpose.

806
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:01,720
And then what we save them?

807
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:04,160
No, we didn't save them.

808
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,160
We didn't save them.

809
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,720
Look what happens when we don't eat things.

810
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,600
Look what happens when we don't eat sheep in the United States.

811
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,600
There's a lack of them.

812
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,200
And that's all because the World War II vets were fed so much sheep.

813
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,320
I forget the sorts of the...

814
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,320
Mutton.

815
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,320
Yeah, there you go.

816
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,640
Mutton, that they came back not wanting to eat sheep.

817
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,640
I get it.

818
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,880
But now it's like we don't have that diversity in our diet.

819
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:31,640
We don't eat goat a lot either and goat's like a super powerhouse protein.

820
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,880
It has a lot of vitamins and a lot of things that benefit our immune system.

821
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,080
And it has a lot of protein.

822
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,840
It builds a lot of muscle in us.

823
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,800
Everyone's like protein shakes and whatever eat different meats.

824
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,920
It will change it.

825
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Eat male animals.

826
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,760
We don't eat male animals for some reason other than the castrated ones.

827
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,080
Eat a bull every once in a while.

828
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,200
We just don't do that in this country.

829
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,200
We're just...

830
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,200
We don't...

831
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,200
Because everything has to be mass produced.

832
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,200
So...

833
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Yeah.

834
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,160
Okay, you want higher testosterone levels like the rest of the country?

835
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Diversify your diet.

836
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,160
Yeah.

837
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Wow.

838
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,720
So I got a question for you about eating meat.

839
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:14,600
I read this thing about when you do eat meat and it is like pasture raised or...

840
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,600
Grass fed.

841
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:17,800
Grass fed.

842
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,080
And nutrients from the actual grass are in meat.

843
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,960
So it's really good for you.

844
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,360
That's why this mass production isn't good also because what are they fed?

845
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,000
Like grain.

846
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:37,280
Just the cheap stuff instead of a natural diet for these animals that we are consuming.

847
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,560
I mean, is that true?

848
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Is that something that is real?

849
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:46,680
Like if I have a cow that is pasture raised out there, it's better for you than a cow

850
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,120
locked in a cage and fed grain all day.

851
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,120
Yeah.

852
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,120
So I'm going to sort of tiptoe my way to this answer because this is a big one that you

853
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,440
just touched upon.

854
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000
We have the biggest drug in the world.

855
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,640
The worst thing in the world for all humans is sugar.

856
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:03,640
Causes cancer.

857
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,640
It causes bad things.

858
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,640
Okay.

859
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,640
Is it good in light amounts?

860
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,640
Sure.

861
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,760
But the problem is there's no where in our food system where it's like you get off candy.

862
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,400
There's still food in your processed foods.

863
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,360
There's still sugar in your French fries, whether in some places they sweeten them even though

864
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,960
you can't taste it because it gives that addictiveness to eat more.

865
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Okay.

866
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,480
It's a little trick they play in food.

867
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,440
Put sugar in your pasta sauce.

868
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Look at your pasta sauce at the grocery store.

869
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,120
It has sugar in it.

870
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,120
Okay.

871
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,440
But here's the thing to answer your question.

872
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,280
Those animals are fattened up at the end of their life by sugar.

873
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,240
Corn, particularly high in sugar.

874
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:45,840
Animals that have high sugar ratios because they're high in carbohydrates and they convert

875
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,080
to build the animal bigger.

876
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Why?

877
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,080
Because they get paid on weight.

878
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,160
Doesn't matter if they're fat or it has more nutrient or whatever.

879
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,240
And again, animal fat's not bad.

880
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:55,480
I don't want to say that.

881
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,800
I'm just saying what's in that meat is sugar.

882
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,080
And so even if we're cutting it out of our diet, we're still getting it through the animals

883
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,080
we eat.

884
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:11,880
The answer is yes, when like cows, we can't eat vegetables or grass and turn it into what

885
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,240
cows turn it into for us.

886
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:15,240
Okay.

887
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:21,080
We can't turn this stuff that pigs turn into really, really healthy things for us.

888
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:26,000
Really healthy fat, really healthy meat, really healthy vitamins and nutrients.

889
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,560
We have to process it with animals.

890
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,840
They have to go through the animals to get to us.

891
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,480
If we eat it directly, while it's still in there and we scientifically prove it's in

892
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:41,480
there, so we're like, oh, I'm, it has the vitamins in it I need.

893
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,720
But our body does, just because it has it in it, doesn't mean our body processes it

894
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,160
or is efficient at processing it to get those minerals and vitamins and nutrients.

895
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,160
Okay.

896
00:47:53,160 --> 00:48:00,120
So the animals are necessary to process that grass for us into a form that gives us what

897
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,120
we can't get from the grass by eating it directly.

898
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,120
Okay.

899
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,360
How are they at four stomachs?

900
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,360
Okay.

901
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,280
Any animal that sort of eats grass like that breaks it down for pigs.

902
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,280
They eat everything.

903
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Pigs do eat meat.

904
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Okay.

905
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,440
They are also carnivores to think that they are not is not true.

906
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Okay.

907
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,880
They are aggressive animals, especially when they're not necessarily so domesticated,

908
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,120
but they will eat anything you put in front of them.

909
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,360
Okay.

910
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,680
And so that, that is proper for this world.

911
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,000
They will eat feces and process it into nutrients because I know everyone that scares everyone,

912
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,000
but guess what?

913
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:44,160
When I go to the bathroom, I leave behind nutrients that my body didn't process.

914
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,160
Okay.

915
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:51,720
If they kept that just like in the ocean, they certain fish eat other fishes poop and

916
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,360
then we still eat them.

917
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,600
Shrimp and lobster are bottom feeders.

918
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,960
What do you think guys?

919
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:03,120
That you're paying for a lot of is processing poop.

920
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Right.

921
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,680
You know, and turning it into something that has protein in it and that we eat and we get

922
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,960
vitamins and nutrients out of.

923
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:16,000
So it's like that type of thinking where we're like, oh, it's eating poop.

924
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,000
It must be bad.

925
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,000
It's going to muscle.

926
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,200
No, it's processing it differently.

927
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,080
It, and in the grass that we eat, it's from poop.

928
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,080
Right.

929
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Yeah.

930
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,520
It's like a lot of things dying.

931
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,080
It's also from death.

932
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Death.

933
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,080
Yep.

934
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,080
Animals goes into organic soil, death of things, worms, they die in the soil, bugs, you know,

935
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,800
how many flies fall to the ground and die in a field and you're vegan field.

936
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:41,800
You're eating that.

937
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:42,800
Right.

938
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:43,800
Yes.

939
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:51,160
So, and it's not, I believe, I believe in the principle of veganism or vegetarianism

940
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,360
when it is aligned with saving our planet.

941
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,080
I agree with that principle.

942
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,280
But when we think it's saving the animals, it's, and I get it.

943
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,280
Okay.

944
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,280
I don't want to hurt an animal.

945
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,280
Okay.

946
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,280
That's a principle.

947
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,280
That's your choice.

948
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,280
Okay.

949
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,080
I don't think that that's something that is beneficial for humans as overall.

950
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Okay.

951
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,280
And if we think that we're going to run out of food and vegetables or the answer, they

952
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,800
are not the answer.

953
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,800
Okay.

954
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,040
Again, nature already provided us the answers.

955
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,000
We just need to mimic it.

956
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,640
We need to simulate it.

957
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:28,240
We need to make it, nature already made everything compounding on one another and made it work

958
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:33,280
for tens of thousands of years before our brains were ever big enough to figure it out.

959
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,280
Right.

960
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,280
Right.

961
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,480
And, you know, I'm a believer in God.

962
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:42,600
So God created this system and we can either use our will to try to own it or control it

963
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:48,240
or we can use our will to try to make sure that it exists in the way that was intended.

964
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,240
Yeah.

965
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:50,240
The shepherd.

966
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,240
Yep.

967
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:57,280
So our brains are our brains back to your point because they grew by having diversity

968
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,960
of nutrients and vitamins.

969
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,040
That's why we're smarter than anyone else.

970
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,400
That's why ultimately out of all the humans, there are like six different species of humans

971
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,240
while homo sapiens sapiens were the ones that are left.

972
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:11,240
Okay.

973
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:15,360
And it's hard for people to believe this, but there were other humans that weren't us

974
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,240
on this planet at one time.

975
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:18,240
Okay.

976
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:19,960
There was a diversity of that.

977
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,960
Okay.

978
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,440
And understanding that the reason we're the alpha now and we're the only ones left because

979
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,320
our brains were big enough to figure out how to dominate all the other ones, whether

980
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,160
they were smaller than us, bigger than us, stronger than us, did not matter.

981
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,560
We have the bigger brain.

982
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,560
Okay.

983
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,920
We have our developed brain.

984
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Why is that?

985
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,600
It had to do with the areas we lived in and it had to do with the diversity of our food.

986
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:52,720
So to take a step backwards knowingly in evolution and in what we were meant to be, and again,

987
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:55,080
I'll just explain this to everyone.

988
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,840
I think God works, doesn't see time the way that we do.

989
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,720
So if he's working on a long-term plan, he's adjusting.

990
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,960
He's not, he's still figuring things out.

991
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,160
So he's like, okay, I need a higher being.

992
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,160
These look like the right type of beings.

993
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,040
They're evolving.

994
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Let's make it that way.

995
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,880
I know that goes against Christianity or a lot of traditional thinking, but in actuality,

996
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,880
if we really eat properly, we are not stuck just as we are as humans.

997
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,160
We can evolve even more as humanity.

998
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,100
We can de-evolve also.

999
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,040
We can de-evolve our legacy.

1000
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,840
Keep pushing non-nutritional things into our legacies.

1001
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,960
Watch what happens, the compounding effect of obesity.

1002
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,320
Watch what happens, the compounding effect of health and intelligence.

1003
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,320
Okay.

1004
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:48,360
So, intelligence is not only, I'm born with it or genetics or whether I studied in school.

1005
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,600
It's also what I'm feeding my brain.

1006
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Yeah.

1007
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,600
Yes.

1008
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Grass fed, grass finished, the way the animals were intended to feed, us eating the way we

1009
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,320
were intended to be fed.

1010
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:09,320
So I think that as humans, we just need to be more aware of what's around us and where

1011
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,960
we come from.

1012
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,840
And don't think we're smarter than the world around us.

1013
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,840
We're not.

1014
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,400
It's more complex than we are and why we figured out scientifically.

1015
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:27,200
The problem with science is we figure out a very small little narrow channel or street

1016
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:28,200
corner.

1017
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:34,120
Like very few people actually think about how it all aligns together as a whole altruistically

1018
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,240
and why it works.

1019
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:40,400
Because I love science, don't get me wrong, but I'm also a business person.

1020
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,760
And in my life, I can become very narrow minded and very narrow focused.

1021
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,480
And that's what we're doing when we're trying to solve a problem here.

1022
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Oh, let's create a super bug that goes and a tick or a fly that helps with immunities

1023
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:56,560
with this animal.

1024
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Okay.

1025
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,920
Now people have allergies to beef.

1026
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,920
Okay.

1027
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:00,920
Yeah.

1028
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,920
Yeah.

1029
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,320
So why we don't need to mess with this.

1030
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,320
Okay.

1031
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:10,760
Because we're smart in one industry doesn't mean we're smart in food.

1032
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,640
No one period is smart in food.

1033
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:20,720
The farmers that are really good have figured out how to work within nature to create food.

1034
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:21,720
Okay.

1035
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:23,360
To create things we can consume.

1036
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:30,240
But us, we should not think that three crops are the answer or one crops answer.

1037
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:34,240
Our plant based protein is the answer and is not the answer.

1038
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:36,400
The answer what's already been given to us.

1039
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,120
I know we think we can fix it or make it better.

1040
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:47,880
We can make it better, but it's not necessarily ours to fix unless it's recreating what already

1041
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:48,880
works.

1042
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,520
Why are we denying what already works?

1043
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:56,440
And lastly, vitamins that we get at the grocery store, all of those again are shortcuts.

1044
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,680
We're trying to shortcut our way through.

1045
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Yeah.

1046
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,000
And most of the time our body doesn't absorb them.

1047
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Like that's the thing.

1048
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,640
If you get a lot of money, you're getting like 20% maybe out of it, 30%.

1049
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,960
Reason our bodies aren't meant to absorb vitamins in that way.

1050
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,960
Right.

1051
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,040
You know, a bunch of vitamins, you'll pee them out.

1052
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:21,560
You can't take more than you need, but at the same time you pee most of them out anyway.

1053
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,920
And I feel like we've kind of tiptoed around this, but I'm going to ask it anyway because

1054
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:32,400
I want to hear your answer as far as who you think should be held accountable for all the

1055
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,360
things you mentioned, our ignorance, the lack of diversity, the idea of these big companies

1056
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,600
and trying to just get the rebates.

1057
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,440
Like who do you think is accountable for what's going into our food and what's happening

1058
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,480
with our food?

1059
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,480
We are.

1060
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,760
It's our buying power.

1061
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:51,760
It's how we choose.

1062
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:58,600
Every time we go to a restaurant, the restaurants we choose, the institutions we choose, we

1063
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:04,200
sit on PTAs or parent teacher association meetings.

1064
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,800
We sit in these things and we're worried about what our kids are being educated in, but we

1065
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,320
don't worry about what they're fed or who's feeding them or who has the contract for those

1066
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,280
schools or the districts.

1067
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,640
So who's in our hospitals?

1068
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:18,840
Where is our voice?

1069
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,360
Who's in our grocery stores?

1070
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,380
We have the buying power.

1071
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:25,840
We pay the taxes.

1072
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,920
We purchase things.

1073
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,200
We have that choice.

1074
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,200
But if I wanted to pick on a group, if I wanted to really narrow it down, food entrepreneurs,

1075
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,080
restaurant tours, we are responsible.

1076
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,800
Whoever's in food industry, who's ever in business, we are also the problem.

1077
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:48,360
We are being deceitful and we are being dishonest.

1078
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,800
And maybe it's not on purpose.

1079
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,400
Maybe it's not knowing.

1080
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,960
But we are, for lack of a better term, propelling the problem.

1081
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,880
What do you mean?

1082
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,520
I mean, we have a choice on what to serve in our restaurants.

1083
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,040
We have a choice on how to buy.

1084
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,280
We have a choice whether to deal with broadliners or not.

1085
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:14,520
And by broadliners, I mean mass distributors like USFISCO, PFG, performance food group.

1086
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:15,600
And we have a choice.

1087
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,520
So I get it.

1088
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,680
It's about profitability and taking care of family.

1089
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,880
And I'm not saying we shouldn't do that.

1090
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:27,600
But we can find ways to educate the consumers and we can find ways to better our food.

1091
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,520
There's plenty of businesses and farms that are doing very well doing this.

1092
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,360
So at the end of the day, I would say number one, the consumer.

1093
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,680
And then number two, definitely the entrepreneurs, restaurant tours, anyone in the food business.

1094
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,560
We have a huge responsibility.

1095
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:49,200
And if we really do care about the legacy of our families, fine, you don't care about

1096
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,600
every other human.

1097
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,600
Okay.

1098
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,040
I think that's become very eye focused.

1099
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,360
I get it.

1100
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,880
But that's the issue.

1101
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,280
We don't ask the questions.

1102
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:05,320
Either we're afraid or it's so convenient to choose the food we have that we just do

1103
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,320
whatever.

1104
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:11,040
I mean, the chicken mnugget wasn't invented until 1981.

1105
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,040
Invented.

1106
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,040
Sorry.

1107
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,520
Now, chicken nugget is a freaking food group.

1108
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,120
Yeah, for sure.

1109
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,880
Especially for kids.

1110
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,760
Like what is going on here?

1111
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:23,760
Okay.

1112
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,760
Simplicity.

1113
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,760
Kids like it.

1114
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,760
It tastes good.

1115
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:27,760
It has sugar in it.

1116
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,760
Like come on.

1117
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Like, ugh.

1118
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:30,760
You know?

1119
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,200
And so there's things like that.

1120
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,720
We can talk about the government at the end of the day and everyone wants to point fingers

1121
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,960
and think it's the government's responsibility.

1122
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,240
I just don't, I don't believe that.

1123
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,320
I believe the government gets away with whatever we were allowed them to.

1124
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,320
True.

1125
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,320
Oh, powerful.

1126
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1127
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,320
True.

1128
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:55,440
I do think a lot of it though, it, to your point, we vote these people in, but it does

1129
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:02,320
have to do with government because of over-regulation of farms and things like that.

1130
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:07,520
And it's hard for small farms to compete with these big, big companies.

1131
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:13,000
They have lawyers to figure out if they're skirting the law and things like that.

1132
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,320
But I'm just Joe Schmo over here.

1133
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,880
I've got me a small dairy farm or whatever.

1134
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,760
You know, a small pasture raised cow farm.

1135
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,240
That's all I do.

1136
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,760
But I can't compete with that guy.

1137
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,920
And I'm afraid that the government's going to come at me because I did something wrong.

1138
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,280
I don't know, whatever it is, it's messed up.

1139
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,880
Your cows fart too much.

1140
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,880
Yeah, right.

1141
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:38,880
Exactly.

1142
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,480
I'm not harnessing the farts to heat my house.

1143
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,240
And people are like, cows and pigs.

1144
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,240
They're great.

1145
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,480
What do they do?

1146
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,040
This is the thing they don't talk about.

1147
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:54,360
Is they actually sequester or put carbon back into the soil.

1148
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,960
Their hooves are designed to put the carbon back into the soil.

1149
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,880
That pollution we're talking about, there's no crop in the world that does that.

1150
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:09,720
It does not do it the way animals do with their hooves, with the manure, with other

1151
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:10,720
animals.

1152
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,120
How about chicken, the nitrates that are in chicken poop?

1153
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,720
You need then the hooves of the animal to push that into the soil.

1154
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:22,160
You need the chickens to pick out the bugs that don't help it grow.

1155
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,320
If we don't do that, we still need chemicals and pesticides.

1156
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,320
Even if you think it's all natural, you're still doing something that's unnatural by

1157
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,880
adding it to it.

1158
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:38,760
So it's like, oh, see what I'm doing over here so you don't see what I'm doing over

1159
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:39,840
here.

1160
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,640
And plants suck the nutrients out of the soil.

1161
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,280
It's a circle.

1162
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:47,280
It's a circle.

1163
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,280
Yeah.

1164
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,280
It's a circle, 100%.

1165
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,360
So I think we're going to switch gears here and go towards your podcast.

1166
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,720
You have a podcast.

1167
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,640
And it is called Justin and the Food Entrepreneurs.

1168
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,560
What episode is your favorite, just in case listeners want to check your podcast out after

1169
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,760
they hear this?

1170
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,040
Oh, man, that's a tough one.

1171
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,040
There's a couple.

1172
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,360
I mean, John's Farm is one of my favorites.

1173
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:19,880
They are accompanying their many generation farmers and in the 90s, after a horrible accident

1174
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:27,120
on their farm, and this is their words, God coming into their life fully, they switched

1175
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,640
to regenerative farming and organic farming.

1176
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,520
They're out of Oklahoma.

1177
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,760
We've done three episodes.

1178
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,960
It's a very, very powerful story.

1179
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,960
So there's...

1180
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:36,960
Okay.

1181
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,960
There.

1182
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,960
I'm going to say that Rollemup Dikitos, he's named Sam Fonseca.

1183
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,960
Fonseca, sorry.

1184
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:52,560
It's a little speech impediment there that I...

1185
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:57,160
And he's just a very powerful entrepreneur, turned entrepreneur, and he's built a lot

1186
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,120
of companies and helped a lot of franchises grow.

1187
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:07,120
And he's recently transitioning into being more altruistic minded and more...

1188
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,640
But he does really well and he helps a lot of people grow and he helps fulfill a lot

1189
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,640
of dreams.

1190
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:17,160
And then there's always companies like Nash Dogs, who's figuring things out.

1191
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,240
He's only three years old.

1192
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:24,760
We've done about five episodes, but he's very driven and he's very altruistic in his mindset

1193
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,360
of helping his community and humans on it.

1194
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,160
So I generally like those episodes more.

1195
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,400
It's nothing against all of them.

1196
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,400
I learned something from every episode I have.

1197
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:41,640
And in its entirety, I really get a lot out of the individuals that are trying...

1198
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,960
Are realized that whatever they're doing is a vehicle to do better in this world.

1199
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,880
It's not necessarily something that defines them.

1200
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,920
You know, it's the journey, not the destination, right?

1201
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:58,000
And so food is a vehicle to better this world, to better the humans on it, to better the

1202
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,360
lives of the animals, the plants, however you want to look at it, the insects, whatever

1203
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:08,760
that is, the bugs, the birds, the bees, all of that matters with food.

1204
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,440
Those are generally my favorite episodes.

1205
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,440
It used to be...

1206
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,920
It's hard because they get better.

1207
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,080
I get better at doing the job.

1208
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,520
The entrepreneurs that get better on here, I know you guys know that.

1209
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,280
Like at first you're a freaking train wreck to first of all.

1210
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,280
Oh yeah.

1211
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,480
There's a lot of editing to do at the beginning.

1212
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:26,720
Oh, man.

1213
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:27,720
At the beginning.

1214
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,200
Oh, those days I do not miss those days.

1215
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,440
Now it's like you can do it in one take.

1216
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,440
Oh yeah.

1217
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,240
Like nope, didn't happen.

1218
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,080
And it's also being good at your job.

1219
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,840
I think you guys are really good at it.

1220
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,840
You don't...

1221
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:47,920
The person on the other side gets into a flow state or into a fluid state where they're

1222
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,360
being more natural and they're able to talk more naturally where there's not the stopping

1223
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,360
and starting.

1224
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,360
Exactly.

1225
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,360
Exactly.

1226
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,240
We try to keep it down to earth and it's not like...

1227
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:05,280
We always say in all of our show notes that we send to prospects of interviews, we just

1228
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,560
say natural flow.

1229
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,560
That's it.

1230
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,920
It'll build organically.

1231
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,400
We'll figure it out as we go.

1232
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:17,520
There is a process of editing so if it does pause for five minutes, that's fine too.

1233
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,040
We got this.

1234
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,040
That happens.

1235
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,040
Yeah.

1236
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,040
Absolutely.

1237
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,040
Yeah.

1238
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,760
I can't wait to listen to a couple of episodes that you just mentioned.

1239
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,320
Something that we discussed today is things that Russ and I have talked about a lot.

1240
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:32,320
A lot.

1241
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,320
Yes.

1242
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,920
It also feels like with our maturity, we have grown and are becoming more aware.

1243
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,000
So yeah, I am very excited to keep listening.

1244
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:48,360
But if you had one message, so you have your podcast, you have a couple of them actually,

1245
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:53,480
but pertaining specifically to food choices and back to the idea from Summers here, and

1246
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,480
you could guarantee that people would hear this message.

1247
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:57,920
What do you think it would be?

1248
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,080
What would you want people to know?

1249
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,000
We get one shot at this.

1250
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,160
Even if there's an afterlife, you get one shot at this to make impact and influence

1251
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,000
in a positive way and not just with your children.

1252
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,840
You get one shot.

1253
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:16,600
And the easiest way for anyone to do that, the everyday person, is in the choices we make

1254
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:22,280
when we eat and the food that we buy and what we are teaching our children.

1255
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,000
If we are not educating ourselves, they are not educating themselves either on food.

1256
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,520
And so, I think the message is we get one shot at this.

1257
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:36,560
And if you really want to make an impact and have impact, it's not donating money.

1258
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,440
It's not volunteering somewhere.

1259
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,440
All those things matter.

1260
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,400
I think you should still do that.

1261
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:47,800
But if you want to have real influence and you want to have long lasting impact, because

1262
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:53,240
governments change, societies change, empires fall, that's the part of the way of the world,

1263
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:57,360
that's the history will tell you that nothing's guaranteed.

1264
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,240
But our food systems are.

1265
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,240
We've always eaten.

1266
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,080
It's always been a part of religion.

1267
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:09,800
So if it's like halal or kosher, those are just food safety plans that are brought into

1268
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,760
religion to keep people safe and healthy.

1269
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,960
And so if we look at things like that, at the end of the day, the food matters.

1270
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:25,640
So I would say if I'm going to truncate it, it'd be we get one shot at this, food matters.

1271
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,640
Wow.

1272
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,640
Yeah.

1273
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,640
Yeah, that's.

1274
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,760
I think to me, it also resonates with go back to basics.

1275
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,480
You don't have to have this grand blue sky plan, right?

1276
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,880
Like you just said, it's food.

1277
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,760
It's what we do every day.

1278
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,280
It's back to basics.

1279
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,160
Wow, I like that a lot.

1280
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,920
That was good.

1281
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:54,520
So what advice would you give a young entrepreneur that is just beginning their business owning,

1282
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:55,520
starting journey?

1283
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,920
Yeah, that's two things.

1284
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,840
One is don't stop.

1285
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,400
Even with failure, every failure is a lesson.

1286
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,480
Okay.

1287
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,680
And don't listen to the statistics.

1288
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:10,840
When they say 50% of the businesses fail, it's a snapshot that doesn't include the people

1289
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,480
that keep trying and eventually find success.

1290
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:18,240
I think that that's the biggest one that I see people give up too soon or too easily

1291
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,360
or give up on their ideas.

1292
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:27,320
It's just statistics are there for data crunching, but a lot of them are used for fear.

1293
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,320
Okay.

1294
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,440
And usually the people that are in a fear state of mind are the ones who use that to

1295
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,440
say, you know, 50% of businesses fail.

1296
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:42,800
People like big businesses injecting their statistics in to keep you guys from succeeding.

1297
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:43,800
Yeah.

1298
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:49,880
I mean, everything can be used for a reason, whether it's propaganda or for any statistic

1299
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,400
can be tweaked to fit a message.

1300
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,400
Yeah.

1301
01:07:53,400 --> 01:08:00,680
You know what a good statistic would be for what you were just saying is how many entrepreneurs

1302
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:07,760
are successful and have a business that is thriving instead of saying 50% of businesses

1303
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:08,760
fail.

1304
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,760
Yeah, that dude tried five times, but now his sixth time he's running a successful business.

1305
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,520
So he didn't give up.

1306
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,760
Let's switch it to something like that instead of, oh, this dude failed.

1307
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,440
Well, no, he's fine now.

1308
01:08:22,440 --> 01:08:26,280
Well, and if you want, I'm talking, taking it back to my podcast.

1309
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:32,120
If you look at the Greenberg Bagels episode out of Brooklyn, New York, he failed three

1310
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,000
times in the restaurant game before he got Greenberg Bagels.

1311
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,640
Now he has Valentine's Pizza.

1312
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:43,400
Now he has Brooklyn's best iced tea company that's in like one of the fastest growing

1313
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:46,800
beverages companies in the country, I bet.

1314
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,560
And so, okay, he failed three times.

1315
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,720
So yeah, he was that statistic, the 50% until he wasn't.

1316
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,720
Exactly.

1317
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:59,800
And it's like, oh, you are 100% that statistic when it's used.

1318
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,080
So what does the statistic really matter?

1319
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,200
No, it doesn't.

1320
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:04,200
It's whatever it is.

1321
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,160
If you're failing, you're 100% on the side, the 50% that failed.

1322
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:11,440
If you're succeeding, you're 100% on the side that's succeeding.

1323
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:16,320
But at some point, there is no road that's paved in gold.

1324
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:17,320
It does not happen.

1325
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,440
You do not find success without it.

1326
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:24,600
Even when you have successful businesses and you're growing your business, you have extreme

1327
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,640
failures.

1328
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:30,160
You can have businesses that are decades old that fail, government change, regulations

1329
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:31,960
change, they can fail.

1330
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:38,800
So the thing that I would say, the other point I would make to everyone is principles.

1331
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,800
Build your businesses off of principles, not personalities, not being cool, not trying

1332
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,120
to bring your buddies or your family into there or their personalities.

1333
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:55,240
Make sure you actually bring people into your business that have good character, that have

1334
01:09:55,240 --> 01:10:00,880
good principles, that align with the principles that you have for your businesses.

1335
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,960
Because at the very beginning stages, we're so focused about getting money and growing,

1336
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,800
we don't worry about the soft skills.

1337
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:12,400
And those soft skills are often what leads to that 50% of loss.

1338
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,920
It's not whether you're a good entrepreneur or not.

1339
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,000
It's not whether or not you're a great entrepreneur.

1340
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,640
If you're a young person, it has everything to do with that support system and the principles

1341
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:27,720
of the individuals who are in your support system, who you choose to be in a relationship

1342
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,720
with, how you choose your relationship with your parents, how you choose your relationship

1343
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,960
with your siblings, how you act as a human.

1344
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,120
All of that dictates whether you succeed or not.

1345
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,040
It's just not, oh, it's a luck thing.

1346
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,560
It's not luck.

1347
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:42,560
It's not luck.

1348
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,560
50% succeeding or 50% failure has nothing to do with luck.

1349
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,160
That's not true.

1350
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:55,920
It has everything to do with principles, character, discipline, the people we surround ourselves

1351
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,920
with.

1352
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,640
And if you're in a bad relationship and you're trying to start a business, you're going to

1353
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,600
have a bad business, period.

1354
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:02,600
It's just the way it is.

1355
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,160
You are a reflection in your business.

1356
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,320
The business as an entrepreneur is a reflection of you.

1357
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,800
The people that you lead will ultimately lead just like you.

1358
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,960
So if you don't figure it out at a young age and you want to be a good entrepreneur, the

1359
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:22,000
first thing you need to do is, and Ben Franklin has a great method, read his autobiography.

1360
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,680
He built his character over a lifetime, a really strong character.

1361
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,960
He has a guideline in there to do it.

1362
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,560
There's other ways to do it.

1363
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:35,480
There's things like 75 hard that help individuals really get that in check.

1364
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:42,780
But I would say that don't give up discipline, your support system, and grow your character.

1365
01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:45,800
And make sure you're modeling a good human.

1366
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:50,560
Because if you're a bad human or you're doing bad things or cheating in one part of your

1367
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,480
life, but you're like, oh, I'm a good businessman.

1368
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:54,320
I do that outside of my business.

1369
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,520
No, that's going to reflect back in your business.

1370
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:00,320
You're going to attract those type of bad things into your business.

1371
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:04,760
And even if you're doing it on a minor scale, because you're the leader, it's going to exemplify

1372
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,760
and magnify.

1373
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:11,080
And you're going to have a lot of individuals who bring that into your business.

1374
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,360
They're not nice to humans here and there.

1375
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,960
They're going to be really not nice to humans in your business.

1376
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:16,960
For sure.

1377
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:17,960
So.

1378
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,960
Wow.

1379
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,680
No, I think I'm going to use some of those sound bites whenever we do a podcast related

1380
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,960
to toxic workplaces.

1381
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:29,360
And we'll have you back to really dive into the entrepreneurial stuff as well.

1382
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:36,560
I mean, we went on about your food experience, but this is almost like where the culture

1383
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,120
of the world is today, right?

1384
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:42,040
The idea of people who own businesses and what the company culture is, and then the

1385
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,760
toxicity that may come out of it if they don't have the principles like you're saying, like

1386
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:51,400
that is where we're at as a society.

1387
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,720
More and more work environments are toxic.

1388
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,160
Again, it's an individual responsibility.

1389
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,600
It's me as the worker not to be entitled or play a victim.

1390
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:00,600
All the time.

1391
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,600
For sure.

1392
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,600
And we all have bad shit.

1393
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,840
We're all human, not one's worse than the other.

1394
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,480
A toothache is a toothache to the person that has it.

1395
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:08,480
Okay.

1396
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:15,320
So, the problem is, is we've brought that all into our workplace and it negatively impacts

1397
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,720
the environment and negatively impacts the humans involved and negatively impacts the

1398
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,840
humans' families who are involved.

1399
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,560
And it crushes dreams to be perfectly frank.

1400
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:30,440
It crushes legacies for the people, the employees or the team members and the businesses.

1401
01:13:30,440 --> 01:13:38,440
Yes, I would say that in a weird way and division and disruption, it plays a lot of part of

1402
01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:40,200
it in society right now.

1403
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,680
But yes, we live in a business.

1404
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:44,680
Absolutely.

1405
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,680
All right.

1406
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,120
Well, now we got some fun ones.

1407
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,480
Yeah, let's move on to the fun stuff.

1408
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:54,720
We got some fun questions and not so serious.

1409
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:59,320
What would you do tomorrow if you won $10 million tonight?

1410
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,320
You said it right that time, I'm proud.

1411
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,720
That's a good one.

1412
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,480
I would say that, I don't know, it's different for me.

1413
01:14:07,480 --> 01:14:14,680
I think probably a lot of people think about how they would spend it or buy or whatever.

1414
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,080
I don't know, it's an interesting question.

1415
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,440
I read it in the pre-questions too and it's one of those things that stumps me a little

1416
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:23,920
bit because I'm an investor.

1417
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,760
I invest in myself mainly.

1418
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:32,400
And so, if it were $10 million, I'd figure out a way to make it work because it was a

1419
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,740
gift to me.

1420
01:14:33,740 --> 01:14:39,600
If I suddenly wanted, I would feel like I owed it back, that I didn't earn it.

1421
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,040
And so, that would be difficult for me.

1422
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:49,680
I mean, earned it would be, gosh, it would be a blessing, but at the same time, I feel

1423
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,000
like it's a curse.

1424
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,520
So, I would have to put it to use in some way that would benefit other people or give

1425
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,960
back to the world around me.

1426
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:02,560
Even if that's a business in creating jobs, I don't think I would use it for myself.

1427
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:09,360
I think I'd be very intentional about how I invested that money or used it for the gift

1428
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,040
that was given.

1429
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:17,680
And mainly, right now, I think a lot of that would have to do with farming or food for

1430
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:26,760
sure and or investing in TV shows or YouTube things that are educating the world.

1431
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,520
I think education and exporting knowledge is pretty important around food right now

1432
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,320
and figuring out ways to do that.

1433
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:38,640
But ultimately, I'd figure out a way of not giving it away to someone else to do whatever

1434
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,880
they wanted with it because I don't think that works.

1435
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:47,520
I'm a firm believer in why are we giving mosquito nets to countries when we should be teaching

1436
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,480
them how to produce their own mosquito nets and building economies and businesses.

1437
01:15:53,480 --> 01:15:56,160
Because once you do that, then there's a place for lawyers.

1438
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,160
There's a place for accountants.

1439
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,600
There's a place for supply.

1440
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,160
So it's more of that that I would do.

1441
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:09,280
I would create things that allow ecosystems around business to form because in that capitalist

1442
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:16,280
world, especially in places that are struggling around the world, the answer is not donations.

1443
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,040
The answer is and outs.

1444
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,480
It's this temporary solution that makes you feel good for the second.

1445
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:25,280
It doesn't make things work in the long run.

1446
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,280
We're not creating long-word solutions.

1447
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,920
We're not creating ownership of businesses.

1448
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,320
We're not creating 401K plans to retire off of.

1449
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,320
We're creating, oh, here's some mosquito net.

1450
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:35,320
I feel good.

1451
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:40,080
I'm the rich country or the rich person or the person I need to feel better about themselves.

1452
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,360
So I'll give money so someone else does the work I should be doing myself.

1453
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:50,360
So I think that ultimately, if anyone wins anything or any gift is given, you really

1454
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,520
have to think about how you give back for what you received.

1455
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:59,160
Because I used to have a friend that used to go around and help manage the money of

1456
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,120
lottery ticket winners.

1457
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,720
And it was always interesting to me.

1458
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:07,080
The ones who saved it right away or put it into an account right away or had it trickle

1459
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:11,120
out over years were much better at managing the money.

1460
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:14,440
The ones who wanted to spend it and became very focused on it and didn't think it was

1461
01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:19,000
a gift or appreciate why it was given to them or maybe there was a greater reason it was

1462
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,840
given to them, lose it in a few years.

1463
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,200
They don't hold on.

1464
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:31,520
And so in this case, I would say that winning that, it would be a lot about focusing on

1465
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,600
what's not about buying a car or a house or whatever it's about.

1466
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,600
I need to make this money work for me.

1467
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,600
Maybe I'd benefit from the aftermath in some ways.

1468
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,640
Of course, profitability and stuff like that.

1469
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,600
But I think ultimately you have to put it to work.

1470
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,600
It works for you.

1471
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,080
You got to go make it work for the world because the world gave it to you.

1472
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:56,240
You're so philosophical with your answers.

1473
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,240
Indoor farming is a big one.

1474
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,120
I would probably invest in more in that.

1475
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,360
That's in diversity farming.

1476
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,360
We need more of it.

1477
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,800
We need more examples of $10 million.

1478
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,640
It doesn't buy you a lot in that field.

1479
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,040
But I think that that's a big part of it too.

1480
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,280
How do you educate people?

1481
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,640
How do you tell them the story of food?

1482
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,360
Really from what is really the story of the broccoli you're eating?

1483
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:20,440
What's its story?

1484
01:18:20,440 --> 01:18:25,040
We care so much about human stories or watching animal plant.

1485
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,680
But what's really the story of the food?

1486
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,120
What does it go through to get to us?

1487
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,120
For sure.

1488
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,120
All right.

1489
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:39,560
I think our final question is where can people find you and your businesses?

1490
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:44,240
What is your web presence if you have a local place that people can stop by and check out

1491
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,080
your food and whatever else?

1492
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,160
Yeah.

1493
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,240
I do everything off of Instagram and Facebook mainly.

1494
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,480
So that would be the place to find me.

1495
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:59,880
As I'm rebuilding, I would say, we talked about the companies.

1496
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,920
I have transitioned.

1497
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,840
Business partners got out.

1498
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:09,360
We sold a lot of companies over the years and got out of a lot of businesses, had a

1499
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,120
couple of businesses that didn't do so well on COVID.

1500
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,280
So I ventured out on my own.

1501
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,320
I don't have the same business partners anymore.

1502
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,840
I have a different group of people.

1503
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,240
I've changed my support system to go back to what everyone's talking about.

1504
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:27,520
This is going to be a long-winded answer and you just want me to spit out a few things.

1505
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:33,120
But it's a little bit like I'm in a rebuilding phase.

1506
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,000
You can find me online at JustinBizarro, BIWZ, A-R-O-S.

1507
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,800
You see there if you're watching online.

1508
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,440
But that's where I do everything.

1509
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:46,000
We're slowly building a web presence, but right now we're having trouble keeping up

1510
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,520
with the business and the interest we are having without doing any marketing or advertising.

1511
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:55,480
I mean, that's just because the partners I have and the business I'm in.

1512
01:19:55,480 --> 01:19:59,920
And additionally, I am working on a TV show that's talking about what we're talking about.

1513
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,320
It's called Foodtopia.

1514
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:07,480
And it is a TV show that will go around, is going around the world and telling the story

1515
01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:13,160
of food from the farmers to the entrepreneurs and restaurateurs and locally sourcing and

1516
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,280
working with your local sources.

1517
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,440
But it goes to cities all over the world.

1518
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:22,720
And if everything goes according to plan, we'll do 18 seasons over 12 years and cover

1519
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:27,920
a majority of the cities in the world and tell the story of food through really those

1520
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,200
cities because, again, locally sourcing is really important.

1521
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,880
And it's really important for our local economies and ecosystems.

1522
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,840
It's more important than we think.

1523
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:44,000
And I'm not saying that take CVS down or take Walgreens down or whatever, but I just think

1524
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:49,440
consciously when it comes to food, we have to be very aware of where it comes from.

1525
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:55,760
So to answer the question, right now, I have a company.

1526
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:56,920
We do freedom foods.

1527
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,400
It's rebuilding food service for hospitals and stuff like that.

1528
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,640
You can find that online.

1529
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,440
You can find Gorilla Brave, which is a group of food entrepreneurs that we are putting

1530
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:09,640
together that seed the world in the way that I'm talking about.

1531
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,720
We are leading in the altruistic way.

1532
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:17,440
I'm not the only one who has this vision or sees the way, especially if you've been

1533
01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:24,520
in food from a young age and you're about 40-some years old or late 30s and been in

1534
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:29,480
the food game or your family's been in the food game your whole life, you really start

1535
01:21:29,480 --> 01:21:30,640
to see what's happening.

1536
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:31,640
So there's that.

1537
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,560
Again, Foodtopia.

1538
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:37,440
And then I have the podcast, which I have many, but the main one is Just in the Food

1539
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:38,440
Entrepreneurs.

1540
01:21:38,440 --> 01:21:44,640
So you can find all of those online by typing it in, but you can also find access to those

1541
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,480
by just following my Instagram at JustinBisaro.

1542
01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:51,640
Yeah, and we'll include all the links to all this good stuff in the show notes so that

1543
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,400
you don't have to try to type and listen at the same time while you're driving.

1544
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,280
And I'm a base human.

1545
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,280
I build relationships.

1546
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:02,320
So it's more about building relationships.

1547
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:08,480
So anyone wants to reach out to me, I'm happy to talk to you and give you my time and communicate

1548
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:17,480
in whatever whose out there thing is not necessarily advertising and marketing as much as it is

1549
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:22,560
building relationships, relationship development, and then managing those relationships and

1550
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:29,400
being honest and open and vulnerable and authentic in those relationships.

1551
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:30,400
And caring about people.

1552
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,680
So many people are just a quick dollar.

1553
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:39,120
So that's where you can find me doing some business somewhere.

1554
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,560
It's hard to keep track of them.

1555
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,560
All right.

1556
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,720
Well, I appreciate you.

1557
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:49,280
We appreciate you for coming on and volunteering to do this.

1558
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,040
This is very insightful.

1559
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,600
I think our listeners will enjoy this a lot.

1560
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,100
We've had some fitness people on here and other restaurateurs on here.

1561
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:01,640
So it's definitely aligning with the audience.

1562
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,400
So yeah, we appreciate you.

1563
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:04,400
I appreciate it.

1564
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,400
I'm sure we'll be able to do that sometime.

1565
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,400
Absolutely.

1566
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:07,400
And I believe we are going to have to invite you back.

1567
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:08,400
Definitely.

1568
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,720
I'm always up for part two.

1569
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:10,720
That's why I do part two.

1570
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,180
So mine it's got to be a continuing story, not just a snapshot.

1571
01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:15,180
That's right.

1572
01:23:15,180 --> 01:23:16,180
Yeah.

1573
01:23:16,180 --> 01:23:17,180
Can't hit it all in one.

1574
01:23:17,180 --> 01:23:20,280
But we're going to try for part two.

1575
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,120
But, no, but seriously, thank you so much for coming on.

1576
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,480
And I've enjoyed all of our conversations.

1577
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:26,880
I know Rush just said he did too.

1578
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,960
So we can't thank you enough.

1579
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:29,960
Thank you guys.

1580
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:30,960
I appreciate you guys.

1581
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,800
Doing this and giving everyone a voice, it's really important in the world.

1582
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,120
So I appreciate it.

1583
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,640
If you have any other suggestions for guests, we're all ears too.

1584
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,640
Yes.

1585
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,480
I'm and some people your way for sure.

1586
01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:44,480
Awesome.

1587
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:46,800
That was a good one.

1588
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:47,800
Yes.

1589
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:54,440
Insights into the food industry and entrepreneurship is always fun.

1590
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:56,120
Don't don't look at me.

1591
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,120
Fine.

1592
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,920
I don't know you said that right.

1593
01:23:58,920 --> 01:23:59,920
Entrepreneurship.

1594
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:00,920
Entrepreneurship?

1595
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:02,920
It's hard to say.

1596
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,280
It's a stupid English word.

1597
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,280
They should redo it.

1598
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:07,280
No, that's a good one.

1599
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:12,800
No, but I feel like it's things that you and I talk about all the time.

1600
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:18,400
Especially when we had our daughter, I feel like we became more aware of what we were

1601
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,400
feeding her.

1602
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:20,400
Right?

1603
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:21,400
Yes.

1604
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,000
Like understanding that fruits and vegetables should be included in every meal.

1605
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:29,680
Not just fruits and vegetables, but all kinds of fruits and vegetables.

1606
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,040
Just because you ate a tomato, that's not good.

1607
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,720
How do you eat a tomato every day?

1608
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:41,440
The point is that I think Justin was making is to diversify your diet and include many

1609
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,440
different types.

1610
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:44,640
Yeah.

1611
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:51,680
It's crazy too how when you eat a cow that has been pasture grazed, you gain the nutrients

1612
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,600
that they receive from eating grass and stuff.

1613
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,600
Right.

1614
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,160
And like Justin said, because they're digesting it in a way that we never could.

1615
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,720
Yeah, we can't eat grass.

1616
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,960
We would get blockages.

1617
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:04,960
We would throw up.

1618
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,800
I mean, it could probably kill you if you ate grass like a cow did.

1619
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:09,800
Right.

1620
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:10,800
Cow.

1621
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:11,800
Words.

1622
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,760
Yeah, but it was a very good episode.

1623
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:20,720
Just make sure you check out his links in the show notes and he's got a multiple podcast.

1624
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:21,920
And I want him back.

1625
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,920
Oh yeah.

1626
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:23,920
He'll be back for sure.

1627
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,280
And we'll definitely invite him back to the show shortly.

1628
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,280
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1629
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,640
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1630
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:37,040
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1631
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1633
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1636
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1637
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,280
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1638
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,280
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1639
01:25:54,280 --> 01:26:23,280
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